AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If the ransom note is a hoax from someone not connected to the kidnapping at all, and, as Levin believes, from someone from Tucson, it could be from someone who is somehow loosely connected to the family/their associates and has heard gossip about what was found in the house. I'm personally leaning towards it being an opportunistic hoax, and I was assuming that details about the watch and the broken floodlight were gleaned from media and videos of the outside of the house. But if the description of the watch location was more specific than what has been talked about publicly (on the charger) or what could be somewhat safely assumed (by the bed, bedside table, or generally in the bedroom), then maybe there's some inside info involved.
If you believe the second ransom is a hoax, what was the motive for removing NG from her home?
 
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I wonder if tempers flared. She was hit and killed and they panicked and decided to make it look like a kidnapping. This may turn out to be a really stupid plot on behalf of the person. You would think that they would have at least attempted to make it look like a robbery.

Why wasn’t the son-in-law part of the family’s video message? That, to me, looks really strange. It sticks out. It would have helped in making him look less guilty.
Savannah's husband wasn't either. It was her three children, which makes sense to me. Now, if her husband was included and Annie's was not, well that would definitely look bad for him.
 
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Struck me as odd too but brushed it off for two reasons.

If their mother is alive, the kidnappers would surely show her this video. This may be the last time Nancy hears anything from her children and they wanted to speak directly to her and show her how much they love her.

This is a cry for help, they are asking their mother directly to communicate to these kidnappers "we will do whatever you want us to do to get our mother home." They know how smart their mother is.

Mom if you can, help us here.

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I also took it as a plea for her to be strong and keep staying alive so they can bring her home.
 
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i seriously don't get the impressing that NG is loaded..... i don't know what she did as a job to raise her kids once she was widowed.... but i've not seen anything that leads me to believe she's rich.

her home is valued at a million BUT it was apparently purchased for $85,000 YEARS ago based on posts early in the thread.

do i can't see where HER money is the motivation for ransom.....
I am doubting the kidnap story but if and that's a big if it is a kidnap/ransom situation, the ransom demand isn't necessarily for Her money. It could mean any money her family can use, ie., Savannah.
 
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Nancy might have forgotten to pay the Nest cam subscription. Sometimes, It’s hard to think of all the accounts as an older person. Just a thought.
I also think it could be a belief that she lived in a safe area where a serious crime was believed to be low risk. Therefore there may have been the belief that there was no need to pay for a subscription that would likely only record mundane daily things.

I pay for a Ring camera subscription for my mom’s house but I didn’t do it in the beginning for the same reason I stated above. I originally thought just having the alerts sent to my phone would be good enough but I changed my mind after I woke up one morning and saw that I had missed an alert for activity at her door during the night. It is likely that it was an animal on her front porch, but I’ll never know and that’s why I decided it was worth paying for the subscription just in case I missed an alert or in case something happened and I would need to go back and review the video.

I was just joking the other day with my daughter that when my mom eventually dies and we have her funeral I am going to include multiple short clips of her arm/hand reaching out the door into the mailbox. She does it every day like clock-work and it makes me think of “The Thing” from the Adams’ Family. Some people do lovely poster boards and photo/video displays of loved ones but I guess we’re just a little bit twisted and would laugh at this.

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CADY...you make a valid point. However, people fear disclosure. A death certificate is not required to drain a senior citizen's bank account. Imagine being accused of "financial abuse of an elder" if said individuals had financial sway/POA or were authorized signer on her bank accounts. I had a case in which my elderly client's son and wife took $25K out of their Mother's account. The sister found out and threatened to turn them into the police if they did not immediately return the funds.
Yes someone getting POA right before the abduction would be a big red flag. It would obviously be a motive. But sometimes people think they are smarter than LE.
 
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Savannah's husband wasn't either. It was her three children, which makes sense to me. Now, if her husband was included and Annie's was not, well that would definitely look bad for him.
That's an interesting point and I wondered that myself. My siblings and I have been married for so many years, I'd want all the spouses there around us for support.
 
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Oh Lord, I’m crying.

I’m still in Florida dealing with parents and don’t have time to catch up until much later, but came here to the latest post and SO MUCH WANTED to see some good news.

Nothing new certainly seems ominous.

Where are you, Nancy Guthrie????????

JMO
 
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I am doubting the kidnap story but if and that's a big if it is a kidnap/ransom situation, the ransom demand isn't necessarily for Her money. It could mean any money her family can use, ie., Savannah.
Watch the video in my comment I posted just above yours. TMZ seems convinced it is legit, and I bet they see a lot of fake stuff coming through.
 
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How about Nancy's kids pushing for the sale of her home several months down the road?
So who are the trustees of the revocable trust?
 
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That's the issue though. It's not established that she was taken alive by force, just because there are blood drops.

Blood drops alone can't tell you if she was alive as she was being removed, nor can they tell you she was dead at the time.

Calling it a kidnapping is putting out a theory of the crime, and theories need to follow the evidence, not get ahead of it.
I'm thinking her heart must have been beating when she left the house, under whatever means, because they said her pacemaker lost contact with the phone rather than it stopped transmitting, or that it transmitted any problems.
 
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That's an interesting point and I wondered that myself. My siblings and I have been married for so many years, I'd want all the spouses there around us for support.
Spouses can be around to support while also not being featured on camera in a video plea from Nancy's children. For one to be happening does not require the second. JMO
 
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Good morning.

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Just imagine waking up, pouring your coffee, minding your own business, and suddenly your name and personal history are blasted across the internet because one outlet decided to label you a suspect in the biggest case in the country. That kind of damage can’t be undone.

This is a kidnapping. As grim as things may look, Nancy Guthrie could still be alive. Posting the name of an unconfirmed suspect could get Nancy killed. A reckless headline or a podcaster chasing clicks is not worth that risk.

Naming suspects after a murder has been officially confirmed is one thing. Publicly accusing someone while there is still a possibility the victim is alive is something else entirely.
 
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I just have an underlying feeling that this all seems a bit contrived, created. The ransom element seems very odd to me in this situation. Yes Savannah is definitely rich, but in terms of real wealth she’s actually small potatoes. This “kidnapper” has had the ability and skill to plan a capture of NG and keep her hidden while also simultaneously communicating with a television station (TMZ)? All that planning, skill and ability and you choose NG as your victim? It all feels very odd in my opinion. Thats as much as I’ll elaborate right now:)

She lived there for some 40 years and bought the house in the 5 figures. $1m today is just the appreciation over time.
Good point!
 
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It's a $1M dollar home, so I imagine a lot of nice stuff. Artwork? Antiques? Jewelry?
Yes if she had valuables along those lines, someone might break in and take it.

But robbers don't usually stop to kidnap or kill people. Robbery is a business crime, not personal. And kidnappers don't usually stop to rob a house. It is a business crime like robbery.

I supposed it could be a robbery gone wrong. But then I think we are talking amateur or first time robbers.
 

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