Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[LaLaw2000]

I had written earlier in the thread before it was determined that the blood by the front door was Nancy's that my mother had the same type of bruising on her arms as Nancy. The elderly has thinner skin due to age. My mother would bump her arm or the top of her hand(s) and get those bruises, then would bleed almost profusely at times. Sometimes it would be a lot, other times it would be just a little. It happens even without her knowing it until she sees the bruising or blood. That's what I thought it was at the Nancy's front door or maybe even in her bed too.
I have to say that I think family is involved as another poster has stated. I actually think there are 4 people involved and I do not mean Savannah or her brother, Cameron, because they were out of state. Did the uber driver go back to Nancy's after he stopped driving for the night? He could have. Does the uber driver know Nancy's family that do live in town? He could. That is 3 people. The other person would be either a friend or life partner of the driver. That's 4 people and is someone Nancy would not recognize for her to be kept by.
Maybe Nancy's prescription bottles were left at her home, but maybe she has one of those plastic cases for her medications and that was taken with her. Maybe there is only enough medication left until Monday. If they are prescription medications how would the kidnappers get more?
No one has said so, but does Nancy have to have dialysis and would perish without it? I don't know anything about dialysis.
This is all a confused mess and nothing actually goes together. Who in the world would really expect to receive millions via bitcoin or crypto - whatever it is called. I think the ransom note was a decoy and the real motive was to get rid of her once and for all then her body to be found later, but not too much later - just enough time that the COD could not be determined.
Again, sorry for the long post like the other one was. (I'm done)

 

[SRWCF]

Sorry I’m piggy backing-

If Nancy did attend church via zoom… what was typical for her background? Full view of room, fake background? Are these services recorded and shared?

Churches typically don't use Zoom as you are describing. It's live streaming instead. It costs money to have a Zoom account and is only used for interective meeting purposes, whether that be live chat for questions or actually showing faces and interacting that way.

 

[tbgo]

I have wondered if she hit her head, bled, and then wandered out dazed and confused. I know that they say she couldn’t walk very far, but who knows? Her body would probably be found not too far away from the house though. What a twist that would be, if this wasn’t a crime at all.

Didn’t they walk back that the doorbells were smashed?

 

[minazoe]

How about, SIL was out and had one car. Maybe one of the kids had another car.

Instead of Nancy waiting at home, AG called an Uber to go pick her her up and bring her over.

I’ve done that multiple times for a senior relative.

I’m not sure why so many are hung up on Nancy taking an Uber.

my vibe is like...BIL drove her home as he says, he used this time to hit her up for money and something got out of control.
his wife came to the rescue and they are pulling a JBR. mOO.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019816520499740690

 

[DizzyB]

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I love Brian. He has been boots on the ground for so many cases, speaking extemporaneously for long stretches. Froze his butt off in Moscow. Stood outside in Florida for how many days. He does his job and has to fill up a lot of air time. He may have added a few words, but I will give him grace because he is unscripted. Most of the time he will say what he doesn’t know, and not fill in the blanks with suppositions. He gets tapped to do the crime stories as they happen and hops on a plane. And he is a reporter-if he worked for 60 Minutes, he would be expected to walk right up on that porch once the crime scene tape came down.

 

[SRWCF]

I need to chime in on this.My husband is Italian.He looks scary, very.He looks brooding because he is socially awkward.But he’s the first to cry when watching a sappy movie or presented with a gift.You really can’t judge a book by its cover.

No, you cannot, but a lot of people are.

 

[korncrasy]

I'm not sure I agree about the blood being old but it does make sense that the porch wasn't swept in a while. She apparently used the garage for coming and going and may not have noticed the porch was dirty. We also don't use our front door and I have gone out there at times and been appalled at how dirty the porch had gotten!

It appears her deliveries were left there by drivers as the package in photographs looks clean and current.
I’ve considered if it was the contents of a vase that was just inside the door.

 

[allboys]

If she was indeed killed before leaving the home or if this was the main goal, I just don't see a motive for anyone aside from family.

I tend to agree with you, but if this was a case of SA and/or murder, leaving her body behind would mean leaving DNA evidence behind (DNA under finger nails etc.)

 

[moonbeams]

exactly....lots of assumptions about old people here.

right!? like thinking she needed to be taken in to the house and settled or tucked in to bed.

 

[LAhiker]

This is what Brian Entin said yesterday on Megyn Kelly... he doesn't really know. But he did say his producers asked church itself and they said Nancy switched to online mass after COVID.

MK: Two other quick questions. The Daily Mail today is reporting that Nancy Guthrie did not attend a church in person and that she hadn't been for years since the COVID pandemic. That instead she'd been participating in the live stream into this church. And then they had one source at the church who told them that the church for the record is not saying that on the record.

Um but they're saying there'd be no way for anybody to know who is participating in the live stream. It's not it's not like a thing where you can see who's joining um you know people live stream in or they don't. Now that would be a material change from the story that the sheriff told which was that somebody at church noticed Nancy wasn't there. She was a religious churchgoer and um that that person called the family out of concern. Have you heard anything on this either way?

BE: So, the church near her house that we went to, the pastor told uh my producer the same thing that the Daily
Mail is reporting that she switched to online after COVID and was didn't come to church on Sundays. I just assumed
maybe she also went to a different church. Um that that was just my first assumption that maybe we had the wrong
church or that she had switched in the last couple of months or maybe, you know, sometimes people go to like a
couple churches. Maybe she goes online to that one sometimes and likes a different one too some Sundays. Um, so I
didn't read into it like the sheriff definitely had the wrong story. I just thought, gosh, maybe there's another church we don't know about.

Thanks for sharing this. So maybe she wasn't at an in-person church service after all. And we've been told that her regular church, which I'm pretty sure is St. Andrew's Presbyterian, does a livestream in which parishioners can't see who else is on (and maybe the church can't either).

So this definitely raises the question of who or what triggered the initial search. I do wonder -- could the church also have had some sort of online Zoom meeting after the livestream where her absence might've been noted? Something like a Bible study group? But that's just speculation on my part.

JMO

 

[CSIDreamer]

I get a text alert on my phone anytime the garage door is open or closed. Also, I can open and close the door remotely using the app. So there are tons of ways to track the door going up and down

I apparently live in the dark ages, lol. Thanks to all who clued me in.

 

[acutename]

If kidnap/ransom is the play here, and the method and location of ransom delivery is electronic and TMZ, respectively, and bitcoin is the means of payment, then it would seemingly have to be someone incredibly confident - and obviously brash - with their computer skills. And fairly young. Perhaps a disillusioned incel type with an overly grandiose sense of (online) self, obsessed with the sound bite culture and material world, and trolls 4Chan, Reddit, and the like for his "sick burn" dopamine hits.

JMO.

the only thing about people like that is- do they watch the Today Show and pay attention to what SG 's salary is and watch features with her mom? I would say usually no, so did they live nearby? want to be a broadcaster and fail? have some contact with NG? Plus I just do not think a cyber criminal's first thought is B&E and kidnap an elder... maybe two or more people- one has cyber hacking experience or thinks he does and one has some experience with elders?

 

[MesquiteO21]

Ok, so let's say her source is correct. Then what is her purpose of releasing this information to the public, besides her own personal gain? It is not helping to find NG at all. In full disclosure, I have a deep disdain for "gotcha" reporting and Dateline type programming. It feels predatory to me. The pretending to care deeply about the family, etc. Nah. I ain't buying it. It's all about the $$$.

important to note that AB herself said the wording from the source was verbatim "brother in law may be a suspect" MAY. so the source didn't say yeah we're totally zeroing in on this guy, but moreso there's possibly something there that we need to investigate.

'possibly a suspect' is different than 'he's a primary suspect' IMO

moo

 

[tbgo]

To confirm that it was Nancy’s blood they would need a sample from one of the children?

 

[NoseyRecluse]

What does an elderly woman have in her home that a thief would want? Cash?
How much cash do people keep at home these days?

It's a $1M dollar home, so I imagine a lot of nice stuff. Artwork? Antiques? Jewelry?

 

[Wsimm]

I’m interested in your ideas. Your post piqued my interest, got me thinking.

Perhaps TC and his bandmate friend were helping Nancy with some errands or tasks at home. Example:Nancy witnessed the bandmate with a large quantity of drugs in the trunk of car.

They were not sure if it registered with Nancy what she saw, if she might tell someone.
So the bandmate hatched and carried out the plan. TC was not involved with the abduction, but maybe knew about the drugs.
All just ideas…
M just an underlying feeling that this seems a bit contrived and created. The ransom element is just odd to me personally.

I’m interested in your ideas. Your post piqued my interest, got me thinking.

Perhaps TC and his bandmate friend were helping Nancy with some errands or tasks at home. Example:Nancy witnessed the bandmate with a large quantity of drugs in the trunk of car.

They were not sure if it registered with Nancy what she saw, if she might tell someone.
So the bandmate hatched and carried out the plan. TC was not involved with the abduction, but maybe knew about the drugs.
All just ideas…
MOO

I just have an underlying feeling that this all seems a bit contrived, created. The ransom element seems very odd to me in this situation. Yes Savannah is definitely rich, but in terms of real wealth she’s actually small potatoes. This “kidnapper” has had the ability and skill to plan a capture of NG and keep her hidden while also simultaneously communicating with a television station (TMZ)? All that planning, skill and ability and you choose NG as your victim? It all feels very odd in my opinion. Thats as much as I’ll elaborate right now

 

[CSIDreamer]

I wonder who was responsible for making sure the Nest Camera Subscription was paid. Not likely Nancy. Probably just an oversight. Maybe not.

My mom paid her bills up to the day she died at 97. Is there any indication Nancy wasn't paying her own bills?

 

[moonbeams]

Ok, to be fair. My Mom literally lives down the street from me. Sometimes I call or text her and she doesn't answer, which is ODD. I will call her cell, call her house... maybe give her a few minutes (maybe she is in the shower? maybe in the bathroom and didn't take phone lol ) I will give her some time, but after about 30 minutes or so, yep, I would go over to make sure everything was okay. My timeline would be very similar.

We don't know if something like this has happened before, where she doesn't answer right away but does after 10-15 minutes or so.

There also seems to be some question about someone calling the family. Do we have confirmation of this? It was not in the timeline from LE yesterday.

i called my mom every day. also, my mom and i shared location.... which is how i knew she was in the hospital.... i texted and asked her if i had forgotten a doctor's appt when I saw that (i'm across the country)

if i called and she didn't answer.... the first thing that i would do would be to check her location...... but that was our dynamic.....

 

[MassGuy]

To confirm that it was Nancy’s blood they would need a sample from one of the children?

They may have done that, but more likely they grabbed her hairbrush or toothbrush or something.