AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Older people often do. I found $30,000 in cash tucked in various places in my mom's house a few years ago. Took it straight to the bank. Another friend found $25,000 in his dad's various coat pockets (dad was a musician who got paid in cash after gigs).
$30K in cash could certainly be a motive for a home robbery.
 
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Mugshot of a man with short, dark, spiky hair, a red cherry earring, and a leopard print collar.3
Derrick Callella was arrested and charged for sending phony ransom text messages to the Guthrie familyCredit: X/MattFinnFNC

''Callella, a Los Angeles man in his mid-forties, allegedly took advantage of the horrifying abduction and text Guthrie’s daughter Annie and son-in-law Tommaso Cioni demanding payment in exchange for the return of the 84-year-old.''
“Did you get the bitcoin were [sic] waiting on our end for the transaction,” the message sent to Annie and Tommaso read.
Officials say that three minutes after these texts were sent, he then made a nine-second call to an unidentified member of the Guthrie family.
According to the complaint, Callella made contact soon after Nancy’s children pleaded with her potential captors in an emotional video, requesting proof of life.
Callella was tracked down after the family showed the text messages to cops who located him in California.''
the really weird thing about this is, if he was not connected to the other ransom request, and money was put in the bitcoin wallet, it would not go to him so how crazy is he? wants 15 mins of fame and jail ASAP?
 
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I'm so pleased this thread is still in one piece at 310 pages
I remember when they would break into another thread after 60 pages or so
This, obviously, easier to follow
Thx to those responsible

PS
Interesting to me, and likely only me, that NG took an uber to her dinner date w/fam 4 miles away that fateful Sat evening
But, got a ride home from fam after

Let @tricia know....
she was asking for people to express their thoughts regarding longer threads.
 
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Honestly, the investigation behind the scenes are being held from the public. I'm sure they have much more evidence gathered and probably have a suspect they are investigating,

This crime smells of family tragedy. Someone in the family knows who has kidnapped/hurt/murdered Nancy. It's so suspicious that it cannot be an random person. We've seen too many times in these cases it's usually the last person(s) who was with Nancy.

Most suspicious to me, why did Nancy take an Uber to Annie's house unless Annie couldn't pick her up. Was Annie and her husband having an argument that Nancy tried to help with so she called an Uber to get her to their house just 10 minutes away? Why couldn't Annie pick Nancy up? This is really bothering me. Whoever dropped her off at her house, Thomaso, had to have something to do with Nancy's disappearance. Maybe it was an accident and the family is trying to cover it up.
 
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It's a $1M dollar home, so I imagine a lot of nice stuff. Artwork? Antiques? Jewelry?
SG mentioned her mother lived in pain.Was someone ( an addict) aware of pain pills in the house? Had someone been badgering NG for some?
 
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Yes someone getting POA right before the abduction would be a big red flag. It would obviously be a motive. But sometimes people think they are smarter than LE.
Getting financial and medical POA papers set up this late in the game (84 year old with medical issues) would be a major surprise for me, especially since she's on life-sustaining drugs and is in pain every day, but who knows.

I will say having a POA really isn't the green light to do whatever you want that people make it out to be. Some institutions accept it and allow you to make decisions, others side eye you and make you jump through hoops for weeks.
 
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I was looking up the Frank Sinatra Jr. kidnapping/ransom case. He was gone for 2 days. Patty Hearst was kidnapped and held for 57 days. I would love for Nancy to still be alive but given her health issues and lack of medication, it doesn’t look good. So this could go on until they find the perp or a body. I hope it doesn’t go on too much longer. If more than one person was involved, or someone knows something, hopefully they crack and start talking. The FBI may have a person under surveillance.
 
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Yes if she had valuables along those lines, someone might break in and take it.

But robbers don't usually stop to kidnap or kill people. Robbery is a business crime, not personal. And kidnappers don't usually stop to rob a house. It is a business crime like robbery.

I supposed it could be a robbery gone wrong. But then I think we are talking amateur or first time robbers.
There is a documented history of burglaries turning into sexual homicides. It’s rare, but it happens.

And that might explain why her body was removed, if she was not taken from the house alive (forensic evidence).
 
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There is a documented history of burglaries turning into sexual homicides. It’s rare, but it happens.

And that might explain why her body was removed, if she was not taken from the house alive (forensic evidence).
And it’s an amount of time that isn’t too long but time to before during and after.
 
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my mom once joked about all the blood stains in her house because my dad bled sooooooooooo much even with the tiniest of scratches!
Agreed, my husband and our Ralph Lauren sheets…We have boxes and boxes of bandaids, nope, goes to bed with cuts.
 
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Another theory-

FBI is obviously taking over case as evidenced by Sheriff having to be told by his wife that the family plea video was on insta.

Let’s say AB source is FBI related. Why would they want it leaked? My thoughts-

•Watch POI and see response
•Prompt conversations with family or spouse. -wiretaps
•Force or pressure to provide evidence not able to get without a warrant- think cellebrite going into AG and TC’s home the other day.
•prompt others to report other “bad behavior”
•stave off other bad tips, ransoms, etc.

We have to remember the car was taken for evidence BEFORE this leak. (I get the necessity of that as well, just for prosecution and to be able to say you looked at all angles to defense).
—— How long would it take to process that car? DNA, Berla, all the things?
——In what scenario could this guy be responsible and the car not hold evidence —other than a hired hit?
From the way AB spoke about her source, I definitely think it is FBI and not sheriff department. I also think I agree with you that part of the reason the source might want to leak it is to observe the reactions and prompt conversations.

Has there been confirmation that the car was seized other than AB’s report or those referring to her report? If so I missed it and would appreciate a link if anyone has one.
 
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This is not new, but thought I would share because I think this is a very good (and concise) interview by CNN of Harvey from TMZ. Lots of good information re: the randsom email that TMZ received.

Interesting information. If this is legitimate and the Monday deadline isn’t met, do you think another contact would be made? Would they provide proof of life? Or is it over Monday regardless? Looking for others thoughts.
 
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Getting financial and medical POA papers set up this late in the game (84 year old with medical issues) would be a major surprise for me, especially since she's on life-sustaining drugs and is in pain every day, but who knows.

I will say having a POA really isn't the green light to do whatever you want that people make it out to be. Some institutions accept it and allow you to make decisions, others side eye you and make you jump through hoops for weeks.
Yes but someone getting a POA right before an abduction, would be someone to take a look at. Yes POA might already be in place. I mean someone else getting a POA recently for NG.
 
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That's an interesting point and I wondered that myself. My siblings and I have been married for so many years, I'd want all the spouses there around us for support.
Savannah's husband has to be the protector of their kids.
I would think that all rich and famous parents are fearful of their kids with this story.
 
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Let @tricia know....
she was asking for people to express their thoughts regarding longer threads.
I just randomly saw this and sent her a message! it has made Websleuths so much easier to navigate and will result in me coming more often
 
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From the way AB spoke about her source, I definitely think it is FBI and not sheriff department. I also think I agree with you that part of the reason the source might want to leak it is to observe the reactions and prompt conversations.

Has there been confirmation that the car was seized other than AB’s report or those referring to her report? If so I missed it and would appreciate a link if anyone has one.
I heard it said yesterday that the report of the car being seized was incorrect. Who knows though? A lot of misinformation is out there. Some of it deliberate possibly on the part of law enforcement.
 
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I also think it could be a belief that she lived in a safe area where a serious crime was believed to be low risk. Therefore there may have been the belief that there was no need to pay for a subscription that would likely only record mundane daily things.

I pay for a Ring camera subscription for my mom’s house but I didn’t do it in the beginning for the same reason I stated above. I originally thought just having the alerts sent to my phone would be good enough but I changed my mind after I woke up one morning and saw that I had missed an alert for activity at her door during the night. It is likely that it was an animal on her front porch, but I’ll never know and that’s why I decided it was worth paying for the subscription just in case I missed an alert or in case something happened and I would need to go back and review the video.

I was just joking the other day with my daughter that when my mom eventually dies and we have her funeral I am going to include multiple short clips of her arm/hand reaching out the door into the mailbox. She does it every day like clock-work and it makes me think of “The Thing” from the Adams’ Family. Some people do lovely poster boards and photo/video displays of loved ones but I guess we’re just a little bit twisted and would laugh at this.

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Aww! I like your post, re Addams family! A bit of humor, haha! I loved the Addams family!

Re: subscriptions for cameras. I did the same thing, got new cameras, they worked, recorded, great! Then a month later, there was an animal incident, I wanted to view, nothing recoded. It turned out first month was free, I got caught up, paid after that.
 
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Getting financial and medical POA papers set up this late in the game (84 year old with medical issues) would be a major surprise for me, especially since she's on life-sustaining drugs and is in pain every day, but who knows.

I will say having a POA really isn't the green light to do whatever you want that people make it out to be. Some institutions accept it and allow you to make decisions, others side eye you and make you jump through hoops for weeks.
In my state POA only applies when the subject is alive. After death the executor of the will takes over. I think a judge has to grant temporary access in the mean time.
 

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