AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[allboys]

I have only seen one post mentioning the Scottsdale home invasion. Perhaps I’ve missed more. Thoughts on any connection, based on this article?

Teens charged in $66M crypto home invasion plot in Scottsdale as search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson

Two California teens were arrested in a $66M crypto-related Arizona home invasion just before Nancy Guthrie vanished from Tucson. Authorities have not said if the cases are linked.

www.foxnews.com

 

[rosesfromangels]

My opinions only:

What are the chances that Nancy Guthrie is still alive? <20%

What are the chances the one responsible was a healthcare person, gardener, maid, electrician, etc? 40%

What are the chances the one responsible was a family member? 60%

What are the chances the police and FBI will eventually solve this case? 80%

When do I think a person(s) will be arrested? Within the next 10 days.

For your first two questions I would say 2% and 95%.

I assume LE is questioning service providers, repairmen, etc. ??

this would be someone with routine access to the property, IMO.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

 

[SRWCF]

especially with needing a travel card or passport now, even to border cities.

Maybe. My mother, now in memory care, crossed the border in October 2025 from Yuma AZ into Mexico on foot without having a passport or travel card. She went to have dental work done and they let her through!

 

[Alkali13]

How do you account for the fact that the ransom note mentioned the location of the watch or other inside details? I mean, I guess they could have made a good guess... or it could've been placed into the fridge by the captor and that's where it was located. Hypothetical ofc. MOO

It sounds like the news outlets got the letters around the same time, and I swear we knew the pacemaker information beforehand. Also, do we actually know what the notes said about the floodlight? That one was broken? Or is this speculation?

 

[thefragile7393]

I have only seen one post mentioning the Scottsdale home invasion. Perhaps I’ve missed more. Thoughts on any connection, based on this article?

Teens charged in $66M crypto home invasion plot in Scottsdale as search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson

Two California teens were arrested in a $66M crypto-related Arizona home invasion just before Nancy Guthrie vanished from Tucson. Authorities have not said if the cases are linked.

www.foxnews.com

no connection if you look at the circumstances of the Scottsdale incident. IMO

 

[Diddian]

I assume NG's floodlights are motion-activated (since some news coverage indicates that continuous light floodlights are not permitted in that neighborhood).

Given that it appears NG must have had a SMART garage door opener (since LE was able to determine what times that door opened and closed Saturday night), I wonder if the floodlights were also SMART devices (connected to a wireless network and able to send notifications, if they detected movement and turned on OR if a bulb failed). If SMART, then information may be accessible to LE about what times they detected movement and when they were disabled, enabling LE to tighten timelines. Alternatively, they may just have operated from sensors detecting motion (since some news coverage has indicated that continuous light floodlights are not permitted in the area).

If motion-activated, the floodlights should have turned on when NG returned home and that would have been evident as her family's car drove up the driveway to drop her off Saturday night. And if they did not turn on as expected, that would be alarming and motivate family to do more than just drop NG off and let her go inside (especially since there are two floodlights and one would not expect both bulbs to naturally fail at the same time).

I assume LE has inquired whether the floodlights were operational when NG was returned home and since NG was just dropped off rather than accompanied inside, I assume the answer was yes, they were operational at that time (and if the floodlights are SMART, that information might be verifiable).

It seems to me the disabling of the floodlights would be done for various reasons:

• To leave NG returning home to a dark front yard and front door late in the evening. This would point to the floodlights being disabled while NG was away at family's for dinner, and point to a perpetrator who is unaware that NG would be returned to the driveway and garage rather than to the front door (where she probably left from when taking an Uber to her family's home). However, it raises the question why family and NG would not have noticed that the floodlights did not turn on when they drove up the driveway.
• To avoid the perpetrator being seen by neighbors or drivers-by when approaching the front door (to disconnect the NEST camera in the early morning hours). LE has been close-mouthed about answering whether this camera was taken rather than left behind, which is interesting to me because it could indicate that the perpetrator believed that his image and/or his vehicle's image might be stored in the camera itself.
• To avoid the perpetrator and the abducted-NG being seen by neighbors or drivers-by when they are leaving the home via the front door to a waiting car.

 

[Nikynoo]

I have wondered if she hit her head, bled, and then wandered out dazed and confused. I know that they say she couldn’t walk very far, but who knows? Her body would probably be found not too far away from the house though. What a twist that would be, if this wasn’t a crime at all.

Didn’t they walk back that the doorbells were smashed?

That was my initial thought too, but it doesn’t explain the missing ring door bell.

 

[stmichael]

I don't think the perp took her to Mexico if he plans to bring her back. Crossing the border back to USA would be a risk, imo.

IF

They took an 84 year old ill woman with a pacemaker, in an apparent struggle (left blood drops) and didn't take her life-sustaining meds. They are offering no proof of life as is key in cases like this. They didn't really handle this well.

 

[Inthedetails]

Maybe. My mother, now in memory care, crossed the border in October 2025 from Yuma AZ into Mexico on foot without having a passport or travel card. She went to have dental work done and they let her through!

Sure, but she wasn't a missing person that the nation is looking for, ykwim?

jmo

 

[shonyakay]

Forgive me this is probably a silly question but I keep wondering, how was a person/movement detected on the doorbell at 2:12am, after it was disconnected at 1:47am?

One theory is that one camera was disconnected and another camera possibly caught some movement on it. Sheriff Nanos said it could be movement of a person or an animal.

From my understanding since she didn't have a subscription the video was not saved to an account that can be viewable. Which is really unfortunate.

 

[thefragile7393]

Maybe. My mother, now in memory care, crossed the border in October 2025 from Yuma AZ into Mexico on foot without having a passport or travel card. She went to have dental work done and they let her through!

That's changed since then unfortunately. With everything going on with the administration, your best bet is to carry one of the two so you don't have issues going to or from. My kids get their dental there and....it's been fun.

 

[Friday Fan]

Maybe. My mother, now in memory care, crossed the border in October 2025 from Yuma AZ into Mexico on foot without having a passport or travel card. She went to have dental work done and they let her through!

WTF???
Did she need to show it when she returned?

 

[Inthedetails]

I am squarely on the fence, but admit I'm starting to discard the ransom-letter theory. Why didn't the perp send the ransom note right away? When did the first news station receive it?

jmo

 

[acutename]

I worry about a possible soft kill taking her out to the desert and leaving her.

Especially if it was someone who knew her and as posted previously maybe some sort of a discussion or request got out of hand.

The visit in the night compelled by drugs or drink to force the discussion or request.
Followed by panic and regret driving a solution to rid of the now big problem; NG knows who barged in wanting to talk and eventually bashed her.

I also wouldn’t assess NG as being wealthy in a home which was probably bought for a very reasonable price back in the day and doesn’t seem ostentatious at all.
Or just because her daughter has wealth. I would expect her daughter’s wealth to be used more for trips, treats and boosts if needed for Mom to stay in her home not substantial money on hand.

A lot of older folks do keep bonds and the like in their homes from the days before the shift to electronic, paperless. Inherited ones filed away long ago, a paper preference to give as gifts, etc. that maybe well known to exist by those close or observed by someone snooping about in the household

All imo

I do not see an upset relative ripping off the ring cameras- esp if they were drunk or on drugs, IMO.

 

[Jade]

You beat me to my comment! I don’t think the cuts/bruises on her arm or even the amount of blood outside are really indicative of anything other than that she’s on blood thinners and bleeds easy.

About the amount of blood outside:

On blood thinners, bleeds easily and was "taken against her will" from her home which implies by force, the force probably causing her to bleed if she does so easily, and the blood is where there is also a newly missing door camera so that blood seems to be part of the crime scene to me.


all imo

 

[allboys]

no connection if you look at the circumstances of the Scottsdale incident. IMO

I was unclear if those who extorted the teens were caught? But I agree about circumstances not aligning.

 

[rosesfromangels]

May I ask why you feel so strongly it is a worker in her circle (as opposed to a family member or friend)?
Totally just curious at this point I don’t know what to think so I almost feel like I’m at 50% for everybody lol

Moo

A family member or close friend could find much easier ways to obtain money from her, and maybe they have in the past. It merits an examination of who might have money problems. Nonetheless, my speculation is based on someone who is frequents the property and is aware of her circumstances and wealth. Someone who doesn’t have wealth and wants to hit the lottery.

Elderly are so vulnerable to financial predators. A cautionary tale to all. A good fiduciary is essential to elder years.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

 

[jillybean51]

Forgive me this is probably a silly question but I keep wondering, how was a person/movement detected on the doorbell at 2:12am, after it was disconnected at 1:47am?

It was detected by another sensor in the house AFAIK

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I have only seen one post mentioning the Scottsdale home invasion. Perhaps I’ve missed more. Thoughts on any connection, based on this article?

Teens charged in $66M crypto home invasion plot in Scottsdale as search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson

Two California teens were arrested in a $66M crypto-related Arizona home invasion just before Nancy Guthrie vanished from Tucson. Authorities have not said if the cases are linked.

www.foxnews.com

I posted about it mainly because I didn’t hear of the people that were extorting the teens being caught- and I want to know how:why they picked a target in Scottsdale. 9 hours away from teens. Makes me wonder if the extorters live in the area but met the teens who lived in CA. If the extorters live in the area, did they find someone else at same time? It’s weird.

I haven’t used signal but that’s supposedly where they met the teens. It’s an encrypted messaging app, but do people just meet there?

 

[dotr]

Possible re-post, fwiw..
Feb. 5, 2026

Teens charged in $66M crypto home invasion plot in Scottsdale as search for Nancy Guthrie continues in Tucson

Two California teens were arrested in an alleged $66 million crypto-related Arizona home invasion just before Nancy Guthrie vanished. Authorities have not said if the cases are linked.

www.aol.com

''Two California teens were arrested in an Arizona home invasion tied to an alleged $66 million cryptocurrency plot that happened the same day Nancy Guthrie was last seen before disappearing from her Tucson home about two hours away.

Authorities have not said if the two cases are connected in any way, but the cases do share some bizarre similarities.

The teens, who are not being identified by Fox News Digital because they are both under the age of 18, allegedly posed as delivery drivers to gain access to the Scottsdale home on Jan. 31, before forcing their way inside and duct-taping and assaulting two homeowners inside''.