AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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lol. I think we’re all on the same page. Based on the new note and the immediate return to the scene, it stands to reason they are verifying something.
Definitely but this letter was received nearly 4 hours ago. Seems like a long time between then and now to go verify contents of the letter. Maybe they verified it and now are pursuing an additional lead.
 
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Maybe the new letter is providing a tip of something they planted onsite?
Will it contain any proof of life, thats what the family asked for.That and a way to communicate. Could they be setting up some way to communicate?
 
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yes but...not an English teacher. and to be fair, not all poetry is about proper spelling, grammar, punctuation. Sometimes that's part of poetry.

Mmmm.
 
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It would take two people to carry NG to the car.

If the couple drove up to the house, a female ringing the doorbell would cause less suspicion?

Then when NG opens the door, the man punches NG in the face which causes the blood splatter on the porch. It renders her unconscious. Then they carry her to the sedan and drive off.

They don't even have to go into the house.
What IF, this alleged possible couple had AI voices that sounded like family yelling at NG to come to the door? At that hour of the evening/morning, i could only imagine her reacting to someone she thought was family.
 
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You are assuming the SIL (if indeed a suspect) is acting alone, evading the obvious monitoring of LE right now. That is not possible. Assuming SIL is involved (unknown), they could have proxies who took over and are now actioning "the plan" with no involvement from him at this time. In other words, SIL put the plan in motion and the proxies took it forward. But I honestly do not think SIL is involved - as much likelihood as SG herself is involved!
 
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If this second note contained something only the kidnapper could know, I'd rule out suspecting the family. There is no way AG/her husband could be covertly sending ransom notes with the media, LE, family etc. all surrounding them. Even by email, that's way too risky and easily discovered.
 
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A second communication arrived….
and now they are back at her property

 
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It will be interesting to learn if the note was sent to all three stations like last time.

NBC could pay the ransom today in exchange for the rights to the behind the scenes story...the world is watching this play out.
 
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This is starting to remind me of the Joker with all the back and forth with media and running to check things at the scene. It almost seems like the perp is playing with police.

MOO
 
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we're running in circles.

originally the associated press (and many, if not all, local news sites) quoted law enforcement as saying there was 'evidence' of 'forced entry'. we've all seen the front door (without the ring/nest camera) and IMO there was no forced entry, at least at the front door. we'll never see the back door because LE wants to keep it that way (JMO).

it's obvious that NG left via the front door as blood was present, identified by DNA.

on thursday, the sherriff stated quite plainly that he didn't know where the rumors came from but 'forced entry' wasn't going to be discussed by them.

so...originally forced entry was a pseudo-fact according to the ap and many, if not all, local outlets. two days later pima county redacted that as "who said that? not us!"

1 - if the 'daily' caregivers are just that, they have a key. no need for forced entry, if some place the blame on he/she/them.
2 - if the 'daily' caregivers have keys, and wished ill intent, 'he/she/them' would intentially stage a 'break-in' otherwise all culpability would fall on 'he/she/them'
3 - if this was a random crime, why the heck would someone break into the back door (proof of forced entry) and risk exiting through the front door? why place risk of two sets of prints/entry-re-entry at both?

it makes no sense.
 
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What do you think it was then? Someone simply killed her and removed the body? What do you think the motivation was? Why was she targeted? The person just didn’t like her? I mean, a robbery gone wrong could technically be financially motivated.
SA.
 
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This is wild. I can't think of another case similar to this...jmo.
 
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Yes, I was just talking to my sister about that. That Nancy Guthrie didn't want to mess with the cameras except maybe the doorbell one

This talk about Ring/Nest subscriptions and her service being expired now has me considering intimate connections to her like extended family and friends once again. Because random kidnappers aren't going to know that being in her house late at night isn't going to trigger an alarm to authorities, right? I mean, she's an older lady of a famous person - and she lives alone - so seems like a random kidnapper would assume that she had basic "I've fallen and I can't get up" security that would trigger an immediate response from authorities, no?

But I suppose if a kidnapper can send untraceable emails and setup untraceable Bitcoin proxy accounts, he/she/they can also disable an alarm system connected to telephone or Wifi.

Ugh. This case.

JMO.
 
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I am wondering if this new message is where to find her body, and that's why they want no traffic.
I hope not, and that would not help their ransom demands They’ve already searched for disturbed earth,
 

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