AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Someone who wants SG in particular to suffer maybe?

I don't know though, this one has me completely lost.
That's what I said early on... If they were looking to get straight to her heart, it's Mom.
 
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They did share it with the FBI, and held back the content.

Very newsworthy that they received it, and there’s no way they wouldn’t announce it.
It's quite telling that Detectives have returned to the house about an hour after announcing that the 2nd letter has arrived from the "Kidnapper".
 
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I am watching live shots aerials, they are searching the grounds it looks like in the back of the home and there's someone taking photos. JMO
Whatever happened with her backyard neighbor that had a tip that she wanted to report yesterday?
 
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I think there’s just no way she’s nearby. They’ve been over that area numerous times, with multiple rounds of searches utilizing people, dogs, drones, helicopters, etc.
Agree she will be found out in the desert somewhere
 
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And at the press conference yesterday, the Sheriff stated that they have been checking with pharmacies to see if any of NG's prescription medicines have been refilled. So it seems to me that LE know that her prescription medicines were left behind.
If this was planned and is a true kidnapping for ransom, they could have filled the prescriptions ahead of time, especially if they're common meds. They certainly seem to have thought of everything....
 
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Mary Coleman
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Some additional details we can release: 13 News received the new note this morning.We sent the IP address where the note came from to law enforcement. It is NOT the same IP address as the initial note, but it appears the sender used the same type of secure server to hide their IP address.The new note contains something the senders seem to think will prove to investigators they’re the same people who sent the first note.
 
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I just had a horrible thought.
The plea from the family included we will pay if you indeed have Nancy.
What if they paid anyway out of fear and without proof of life, and they are getting Nancy's body back ?

I've thought about this as well....
LE is not saying what is in the note "for respect for the family or something like that. ?Moo?
Since the previous communication said there would be no more communication, why is this happening??
What if they end up demanding crypto again, but just so the family can get Nancy's body back?
I am sure the family is having to think about every awful awful options....

o the nightmare.
 
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I am squarely on the fence, but admit I'm starting to discard the ransom-letter theory. Why didn't the perp send the ransom note right away? When did the first news station receive it?

jmo
I'm late getting back here, but I think the ransom letter may have been a diversion to muddy the waters of what really happened. Divert attention from someone who either worked in or around the house or from family however close. I'm not sure what day it was received by the two news stations then TMZ.
 
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Wondering how they will provide CURRENT proof of life with something in the house?
They could be simply verifying that the people sending the emails have actually been on her property. If that's the case, they know they need to invest more man power to determine who is sending them.
 
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All this manpower suggests more than just verification of something in the note. Perhaps they now have potential location of a body... a kidnapper might stand to benefit not only from ransom money, but from a discovered and deceased NG...
I don’t think family would pay if kidnapper says she died, location of body.
 
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I am watching live shots aerials, they are searching the grounds it looks like in the back of the home and there's someone taking photos. JMO

Flightaware shows nothing aerial right now.

Transponders possibly turned off?

JMVHO.
 
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Mary Coleman
https://x.com/Mary_reports
@Mary_reports
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5m

Some additional details we can release: 13 News received the new note this morning.We sent the IP address where the note came from to law enforcement. It is NOT the same IP address as the initial note, but it appears the sender used the same type of secure server to hide their IP address.The new note contains something the senders seem to think will prove to investigators they’re the same people who sent the first note.

Wow! God i hope she’s rescued safe.
 
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I wonder if the securing, releasing, securing, releasing and now securing again is not just messy police work. Possibly early suspicion of inner circle person(s) and wanting to see if they might do anything or move anything or take anything. The notion that not allowing access might not potentially move the investigation forward.
It has got to be a LE strategy. I remember the sheriff saying in one of the early press conferences that the home had been "handed back over to the Guthrie family" which seemed an extraordinary thing to do when it is a known crime scene with blood on the porch, the "assailant" at large, and the victim missing. If they did hand the house back over, my assumption is the police have been re-securing the scene periodically to monitor the actions of specific family members.
 
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Mary Coleman
https://x.com/Mary_reports
@Mary_reports
·
5m

Some additional details we can release: 13 News received the new note this morning.We sent the IP address where the note came from to law enforcement. It is NOT the same IP address as the initial note, but it appears the sender used the same type of secure server to hide their IP address.The new note contains something the senders seem to think will prove to investigators they’re the same people who sent the first note.
i do not understand why this level of detail is being released.
 
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It has got to be a LE strategy. I remember the sheriff saying in one of the early press conferences that the home had been "handed back over to the Guthrie family" which seemed an extraordinary thing to do when it is a known crime scene with blood on the porch, the "assailant" at large, and the victim missing. If they did hand the house back over, my assumption is the police have been re-securing the scene periodically to monitor the actions of specific family members.
This is my trail of thought too. Jmo.
 
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This is a really poorly written statement by the FBI IMO. Did they lay off everyone with access to their Canva and Grammarly accounts?
I know it's not funny, the situation, but THIS comment is hilarious
 
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You are assuming the SIL (if indeed a suspect) is acting alone, evading the obvious monitoring of LE right now. That is not possible. Assuming SIL is involved (unknown), they could have proxies who took over and are now actioning "the plan" with no involvement from him at this time. In other words, SIL put the plan in motion and the proxies took it forward. But I honestly do not think SIL is involved - as much likelihood as SG herself is involved!
Coincided with the start of the Olympics.
 

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