AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cassie P]

The context is that the Senator's daughter was kidnapped. She goes on TV to make a plea for the person to return her daughter, and goes out of her way to humanize her to the kidnapper by saying that and other things about her.

ETA: I got to this comment of mine and realized my profile has a Silence of the Lambs quote, ha. May have seen it once or twice.

Yes thank you, it was in the context of a kidnapping story line in the movie. I still think it is quite odd to use a quote from a movie about a serial killer when talking to the person who has abducted your mother. There are other ways to humanize the victim. I am assuming the FBI gave some tips on how to handle communication and that is one I cannot figure out.

 

[CuriousCricket]

A potential deviation in all of this is that the cameras may be the kidnapper(s) and he/she/they referenced them in the second letter. Indeed, what if the perp was watching the investigators?

JMO.

What if it was hooked into the area the perps planned to hold NG and could receive a transmission when proof of life was requested?

I have zero tech skills so don't have any idea if they could transmit video to a "card" that LE could then access. In olden times a newspaper with date easily visible was used to establish time and proof of life.

 

[investigatoroffacts]

i am wondering if the camera on the roof was a wildlife camera.

 

[auburnmomof2]

A news outlet that had previously received a communication from the "kidnapper," received another communication. It appeared similar, and included some detail that would supposedly verify that they were the same person who sent the previous communication.

This communication was sent through the newsroom tip system, and wasn't an email as we had previously believed. That's likely the case with the communications the other station and TMZ received in the past, but not a fact.

After this communication, police returned to the house. They were spread out all over the place, seemingly looking at different things. They may have removed a camera from the roof area of the house.

That's pretty much it.

Thank you!! So basically no major breaks or updates? Or proof of life?

 

[Cryptic]

Question: Do we know why the Circle K? And where is that in relation to AG's?

I don't think there is much info out in the Circle K. But.... if I were to guess from my previous life in SOCAL....

Once development spreads from the city and 'burbs proper into the surrounding hills, the road net work can thin out. Certain canyon- or relative canyon roads then become by far the most convenient routes for people to come and go by. Some times, alternative routes can take you miles out of your way.

So.... the convenient routes become "ckoke points" (military term describing roads, bridges etc. that enemies must use if they want to get from "A" to "B"). Except in this case, the users are not enemies, but commuters etc.

Some canyon roads don't have a lot of businesses on them until one gets to the built up areas. A Circle K or other gas station on a "choke point" would then make super convenient waiting spot, meet up spot etc for the kidnappers.

They might also need to drive by it to get to the home. Likewise, choke point the Circle K could serve as an emergency holding spot for: " No, no not now! A neighbor is walking their dog- turn around!! type commands from a gang leader.

 

[New Penny]

this same investigative pattern of repeat visits to the crime scene by LE happened during the idaho 4 investigation, from what I recall, MOO.

Gilgo Beach cases as well

 

[redflag71]

FBI going door-to-door in Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood:

Local news NBC 12

 

[heli]

You can play Mahjong with 2 players, and even 3 (Siamese mahjong or use a ghost player)

AG & hubby have a child. Looks to be early teens. Maybe 4th person

 

[InkyEvie]

The house is older and was probably considered pretty remote when it was built. Maybe the small structure is a well house?

I think I stared at that thing more than I watched them do whatever they were doing on the roof. It's really bothering me not knowing what it is! Random, but it kind of looked like an outhouse to me. Weird place for one.

 

[Luna20]

Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.

 

[stmichael]

Is it a scam, do we know? Is it worth her life?

Well paying a ransom without proof of life is very dubious. In past cases where a ransom was paid it is always customary to get proof of life. In the video with the siblings, SG pleaded for the kidnappers to 1) contact them 2) show that their mother was alive and safe. These two customary aspects of ransom negotiation have been missing in this case. Anyone can just say they have your ill 84 year old mother w./ pacemaker and "sure bro she's good, please deposit 3M bitcoin in untraceable account."

Statistically an 84 year old woman with a pacemaker, dependent on medicine she probably does not have in her 6th of abduction--odds of life are not good. You need proof of life.

 

[LAborn]

I was just saying that the kidnapper holds the cards. He doesn't have to provide proof of life to get paid.

JMO.

Well, I doubt they pay anyone without proof, so I guess he does.

 

[MassGuy]

Thank you!! So basically no major breaks or updates? Or proof of life?

There was no proof of life, and no further demands apparently.

There was also this report, which I found interesting. It has been posted a bunch, but it's easy to miss with this thread going so fast:

Police probing leads about a vehicle​

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Tom Winter, Andrew Blankstein and Chloe Atkins
Law enforcement officials in Arizona are searching for a vehicle or vehicles that may be connected to the Nancy Guthrie investigation, NBC News has learned.

A Circle K spokesperson told NBC News that law enforcement visited one of their stores on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.”

Officials haven’t said if the vehicle or vehicles are definitively connected to any part of the crime, or if that lead has since evaporated.

 

[emigrate]

I think, by now, someone, somewhere, has recognized the absence of a friend or family member. Or, perhaps recognized unusual/odd behavior.

Like in that movie "Trap" that was such a good movie.

 

[Rush4087]

ok well.. I am trying to keep up here and have been listening to Fox .. apparently the banned source bahahaha

BUTTT their reporter that has been there and got drone footage earlier today (before LE came back), said he thought it was the floodlight that they noticed in the back that was broken.

Wish we had some concrete info.

and having to scroll sooo many posts, it's hard LOL

Photos of the broken lights have been posted here in the thread. There are two lights together, they are white in color, and located just to the right of the blue door in the back. Search the thread for "broken" or "lights" and you will find the photo(s).

Jmo

 

[Friday Fan]

I deleted my original post because I didn't realize it is Fox News.

I must say that Trump's comments are concerning. His comments seem more like it could be someone closer to Nancy. I hope that is not the case. I truly do.

I have been on the fence. I truly believe it is possible that she was kidnapped and still think that could be an option until told otherwise.

I don't know. I think he's a bit engrained in this because his show was on at NBC.

I just realized Savannah used to be at Court TV. I used to get her and Kimberly Guilfoyle mixed up because they may have been on at the same time. (Not because they looked alike..LOL) I often wouldn't pay attention to the reporter's names and I would see Kimberly on there and think her name was Savannah Guthrie.

 

[LAborn]

Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.

I'll believe it when I see it. This all has been so strange.

 

[SUNchips]

Somewhere upthread is a google map link showing where it is. And I recall a mention (unknown if verified) that the Circle K is near AG and SIL's house.

Maybe searching the thread for "Circle K" and looking shortly after it was first mentioned, might be the quickest way to find it.

MOO

I am the one who said the Circle K is right next to AG’s house, it’s .5 miles, a 2 min drive or 10 min walk. However it is also one of the closest gas stations to NG’s house and is on the way to the highway from her house.

I live a few minutes from NG, I’m not a verified insider or anything but I do know people who know her/the family.

 

[LAborn]

I hear you and I appreciate you playing devil’s advocate But do you actually think in this case that LE have been sitting on the house or have cameras? I hope so, but I’m not so sure.

I would imagine LE has had the house under surveillance since she went missing, as often criminals return to the scene.

 

[Megnut]

My speculation:

We already know that the ransom email mentioned something about the smart watch and about a broken spotlight.

What if this communication said, "not that floodlight, the other  one".

JMO