AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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You can play Mahjong with 2 players, and even 3 (Siamese mahjong or use a ghost player)
AG & hubby have a child. Looks to be early teens. Maybe 4th person
 
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The house is older and was probably considered pretty remote when it was built. Maybe the small structure is a well house?
I think I stared at that thing more than I watched them do whatever they were doing on the roof. It's really bothering me not knowing what it is! Random, but it kind of looked like an outhouse to me. Weird place for one.
 
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Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.
 
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Is it a scam, do we know? Is it worth her life?

Well paying a ransom without proof of life is very dubious. In past cases where a ransom was paid it is always customary to get proof of life. In the video with the siblings, SG pleaded for the kidnappers to 1) contact them 2) show that their mother was alive and safe. These two customary aspects of ransom negotiation have been missing in this case. Anyone can just say they have your ill 84 year old mother w./ pacemaker and "sure bro she's good, please deposit 3M bitcoin in untraceable account."

Statistically an 84 year old woman with a pacemaker, dependent on medicine she probably does not have in her 6th of abduction--odds of life are not good. You need proof of life.
 
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I was just saying that the kidnapper holds the cards. He doesn't have to provide proof of life to get paid.

JMO.
Well, I doubt they pay anyone without proof, so I guess he does.
 
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Thank you!! So basically no major breaks or updates? Or proof of life?
There was no proof of life, and no further demands apparently.

There was also this report, which I found interesting. It has been posted a bunch, but it's easy to miss with this thread going so fast:

Police probing leads about a vehicle​

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Tom Winter, Andrew Blankstein and Chloe Atkins
Law enforcement officials in Arizona are searching for a vehicle or vehicles that may be connected to the Nancy Guthrie investigation, NBC News has learned.

A Circle K spokesperson told NBC News that law enforcement visited one of their stores on Oracle Road in Tucson after “receiving a tip regarding a vehicle of interest, and our team has provided them access to the store’s surveillance video.”

Officials haven’t said if the vehicle or vehicles are definitively connected to any part of the crime, or if that lead has since evaporated.
 
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I think, by now, someone, somewhere, has recognized the absence of a friend or family member. Or, perhaps recognized unusual/odd behavior.
Like in that movie "Trap" that was such a good movie.
 
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ok well.. I am trying to keep up here and have been listening to Fox .. apparently the banned source bahahaha

BUTTT their reporter that has been there and got drone footage earlier today (before LE came back), said he thought it was the floodlight that they noticed in the back that was broken.

Wish we had some concrete info.

and having to scroll sooo many posts, it's hard LOL
Photos of the broken lights have been posted here in the thread. There are two lights together, they are white in color, and located just to the right of the blue door in the back. Search the thread for "broken" or "lights" and you will find the photo(s).

Jmo
 
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I deleted my original post because I didn't realize it is Fox News.

I must say that Trump's comments are concerning. His comments seem more like it could be someone closer to Nancy. I hope that is not the case. I truly do.

I have been on the fence. I truly believe it is possible that she was kidnapped and still think that could be an option until told otherwise.
I don't know. I think he's a bit engrained in this because his show was on at NBC.

I just realized Savannah used to be at Court TV. I used to get her and Kimberly Guilfoyle mixed up because they may have been on at the same time. (Not because they looked alike..LOL) I often wouldn't pay attention to the reporter's names and I would see Kimberly on there and think her name was Savannah Guthrie.
 
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Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.
I'll believe it when I see it. This all has been so strange.
 
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Somewhere upthread is a google map link showing where it is. And I recall a mention (unknown if verified) that the Circle K is near AG and SIL's house.

Maybe searching the thread for "Circle K" and looking shortly after it was first mentioned, might be the quickest way to find it.

MOO
I am the one who said the Circle K is right next to AG’s house, it’s .5 miles, a 2 min drive or 10 min walk. However it is also one of the closest gas stations to NG’s house and is on the way to the highway from her house.

I live a few minutes from NG, I’m not a verified insider or anything but I do know people who know her/the family.
 
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I hear you and I appreciate you playing devil’s advocate :) But do you actually think in this case that LE have been sitting on the house or have cameras? I hope so, but I’m not so sure.
I would imagine LE has had the house under surveillance since she went missing, as often criminals return to the scene.
 
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My speculation:

We already know that the ransom email mentioned something about the smart watch and about a broken spotlight.

What if this communication said, "not that floodlight, the other  one".

JMO
 
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if she was in or immediately around the house, i don't think she would have disconnected from the pacemaker app?
I’m familiar with Arizona. I love it there. One of my cousins live up the mountains outside of Phoenixand has daily visits from wildlife. I’m sure it’s the same at Nancy’s house.

Truthfully, I’m not ruling out that she’s still out there around her property. it seems that sheriffs department dropped the ball. Otherwise, why would they be out there again?
 
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Does anyone have any insight as to why the rewards have been so skimpy? I think the first reward was like 2500, and the FBI reward is now 50K. I would think Savannah would put up much more money. Someone knows what happened and enough money would probably draw them out.

Personally, I view it as a very reasonable approach.

As I never watched Guthrie’s show, to me “a celebrity’s mother” is almost unnecessary information. I feel equal degree of compassion to all children of Nancy, and mostly, I am sad for Nancy and angry with the person who hurt an old lady. There may be lots of other people in the country feeling the same way. So the official message is “the state of Arizona’s reward here is equal to that offered for any other old abducted woman”.

What happens behind the scenes might be very different.
 
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A couple more photos of the small structure in the backyard.
 

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Can someone please give the cliff notes of today's updates for me? Minus the political mumbo jumbo about sources etc.
I'm seeing something about a camera but I can't read 100 pages tonight lol
  • FBI received another ‘ransom note.’
  • Police moved journalist to the end of the street and blocked off all entry.
  • Police informed neighbors they would search for properties in that area.
  • FBI arrived at NG home ‘searching’ for something.
  • FBI pictured on top of pool room removing either a solar-powered motion detector spotlight – which may also have a camera (unknown)
 
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You can play Mahjong with 2 players, and even 3 (Siamese mahjong or use a ghost player)
Oh, ok. Thanks !
I personally have never played it although a few times online and didn't find it to my liking. ;)
I think I saw at least two movies a long time ago that showed some people playing and it was always a group of four.
Jmo.
 
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Just in on Court Tv. TMZ is saying that Nancy is alive and where the kidnappers will drop her off.
hmm just checked tmz ... nothing new there. Would think TMZ would want the scoop on that lol
 
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I mean, I could be wrong, but I don't think Brian E is from Mass? Lol

ETA: And yes, I'm not sure if he's still there, but the number of Brady/Patriots profile pics MassGuy has had over the years makes me pretty confident he comes from Mass, haha
Not saying I believe it just someone said it up thread 🤣
 

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