AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I wonder if the confusion regarding who dropped her back home relates to the daughter and son-in-law giving conflicting statements or not being able to keep their story straight. That seems to be such a cut and dry fact.
Also I wonder if the dinner was a pretense to carry out this plan?
I actually think they’ve chosen to keep that quiet now since AB said SIL was a suspect. They said early on that SIL dropped her home
 
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KNBC LA just showed a video of a Subaru on a flatbed coming from the roadblock area of NG's home.

edit to add: looking on their site for a link but watching this LIVE on KNBC LA channel 4
 
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Dbm
 
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.."within 12 hours"
I wonder if one can deduce from this that Nancy is being held quite a distance away, and not within the Tucson area as speculated by some .
That is, IF this ransom note is legit, and that Nancy is alive. (I personally lean to the latter not being true, both points.)
Harvey explained on TMZ that the note says if the ransom is paid they would bring NG back within a few hours. He extrapolated a driving radius of how far that would be based off that time and made a map (see pic attached). That's what Harvey came up with. Take it for what it is, I mean it's TMZ.
 

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Hard to understand the significance of NG’s car being towed from the garage after they’ve been in the house for days…could this be something more than a nothing-burger?
 
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Not about the language, but a different question

Perhaps someone remembers a detective/mystery novel where the criminal leaves “clues” in difficult-to-approach places. The “clues” consist of short poems. I don’t remember whether they are classical or written by the criminal himself, but each contains a “hint”. They finally find the person but it is not easy to decipher.

Does anyone remember what I am talking about? It is a well-known novel but I read it a long time ago, so I remember only “patches”.

I have a feeling that I am observing something similar here.
 
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If the keys are missing they would tow her car, but more likely they are just trying to make sure no evidence is in the car, and I would suspect they are taking it to a location to a secure facility so they can a full forensic exam.
 
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IMO a random, unknown bad guy, didn’t have access to NG vehicle.
Doesn't mean there's not evidence on the outside of the vehicle.
 
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The point reported says that she is alive and scared
It was written by the ransom seeker and reported about what was written. Seeker could well be lying, but reporting that he said it is true.
 
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Hard to understand the significance of NG’s car being towed from the garage after they’ve been in the house for days…could this be something more than a nothing-burger?
I said a bit above I just think they are covering all bases. Likely just want to do forensics on her car. Just in case I guess
 
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I actually think they’ve chosen to keep that quiet now since AB said SIL was a suspect. They said early on that SIL dropped her home

Apparently Sheriff Nanos told New York Times just recently too that it was the SIL that dropped her off that night.
 
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All I'm saying is that if it is statistically more probable that a kidnapper would return my loved one if I paid a ransom - regardless of whether the kidnapper agreed to show me proof of life (I would of course plead for it) - then I would still pay it if I was able. I know my consequences of not paying it.

JMO.
I agree
 
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I wonder if the confusion regarding who dropped her back home relates to the daughter and son-in-law giving conflicting statements or not being able to keep their story straight. That seems to be such a cut and dry fact.
Also I wonder if the dinner was a pretense to carry out this plan?
And what about the claim allegedly made by family members that someone from church reached out to them to say their mom never showed up? But then there are some reports that NG hadn't been to church in person in years. If they didn't have their story straight on the church reach out, LE would know something was wrong that day.
 
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Yes thank you, it was in the context of a kidnapping story line in the movie. I still think it is quite odd to use a quote from a movie about a serial killer when talking to the person who has abducted your mother. There are other ways to humanize the victim. I am assuming the FBI gave some tips on how to handle communication and that is one I cannot figure out.

I’m hopelessly and helplessly a million pages behind and won’t be able to catch up until I get back to New York ( if the plane isn’t canceled due to weather).

I saw this post though as I am hurrying through. I agree it seems like a strange thing to say in this context of literal real life and death.

I wonder if perhaps, in the ransom note which we have not read, maybe Savannah was instructed by the kidnappers to say this? Some kind of coded language that is supposed to be a message back to the kidnappers?

Just speculating.
 
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IMO a random, unknown bad guy, didn’t have access to NG vehicle.
So you're telling me they are towing the car of the last person that saw NG alive - alone - and that this weirdo ransomwocky could be a sloppy cover-up? I mean mother in laws, man.
 

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