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Yes. IMO the ransom business was a deflection.Is it possible that this was never a kidnapping , but an attempt to cover up a murder?
Yes. IMO the ransom business was a deflection.Is it possible that this was never a kidnapping , but an attempt to cover up a murder?
There was blood involved here, and I've been confused because if they do have a suspect, then her blood should be in the car.I’m not sure what make and model her car is, but if it’s a newer model they may be able to run digital forensics on the built-in GPS and navigation systems to reconstruct the car’s movements. If the car is equipped with Bluetooth, they may be able to extract which devices connected to the car and when. MOO.
I know but this was different.Many murdered people start out as missing…
The posture of LE tonight suggests they know something new about the scene and it involves the car. They also know if that garage door was opened at another time, but they knew this days ago. Why now seize the car?Phone App from garage door opener. Our Genie has this capability. Can open/close the garage door from our phones, it timestamps on the app.
You can go back to old posts, hit the "Edit"" button, and then remove the comment and put "DBM" instead.Upon more review I don’t think there’s any indication her phone was found in her car…can we strike this?
This has been my leading theory for a while, however I would LOVE to believe that I am mistaken and that Nancy is still alive.Is it possible that this was never a kidnapping , but an attempt to cover up a murder?
That’s been my suspicion all alongIs it possible that this was never a kidnapping , but an attempt to cover up a murder?
It doesn’t say where she’d be dropped off per your original post.Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'
AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026
Hmm was NG car at AG/TC's? And did SIL drive her home in it? Followed by AG to ride back home with. Something's not adding up with the ride home story. OR did NG drive herself home??Woah, I didn’t realize her phone was found in the car? I cant find - could you link?
Is it different beyond the receipt of a ransom that may or may not be legitimate? Asking legitimately…as you can see by my post history I am just as on the fence and perplexed as everyone else and change my opinion hourlyI know but this was different.
BTK (Blind, Torture, Kill serial murderer from Topeka KS) send messages to local police. His last message to them was used on either a typewriter or computer at his church, and that ultimately confirmed to the police that he was the BTK murderer. Agree with Warwick7 that it's nearly impossible to trace, but once there is a connection with a person or place, these connections can be made. IMOOn paper, they can bring in writing analysts, they can examine the paper and where it is sold from and dusted for fingerprints...etc...
Using the computer to send ransom notes is so much hard or nearly impossible to trace.
She has a home phone AND a car phone?That's true about her phone. Odd it would be in her car since she ubered to the dinner. She had her phone to contact uber. I'd assume she'd have it on her when Uber arrived to pick her up.
So she'd have it at dinner and then when her SIL/BIL drove her back home. HOW did it end up in her car ?
I'd think she would keep it with her when she went back home and went inside. I'd want it with me, home alone in a big house all night. So when did it get placed into her car?
Has LE towed NG’s car previously? Or is this the first time it’s been removed to be processed elsewhere? If the latter, I’d be interested to know why they are doing it now — have they located information which leads them to believe the car may have played a role in the crime somehow?
This wasn’t directed at one of my posts! Hopefully other user deletes ◡̈You can go back and edit your own old posts for like an hour after to remove the comment and put "DBM" instead.
(DBM = Deleted By Me).
There is so much that we initially heard that is not correlating with what we are currently hearing. MOHmm was NG car at AG/TC's? And did SIL drive her home in it? Followed by AG to ride back home with. Something's not adding up with the ride home story. OR did NG drive herself home??
Her phone was found in her home.Just my opinion, but maybe LE got some evidence results back from labs and now are curious to see whose dna is primary on the steering wheel. I've always thought it odd NG's cell phone was in the car, when it seems most people would have their phone in the house with them. Just my random thoughts/guesses, fwiw.
But why would blood be by the front door if she was moved with her car.There was blood involved here, and I've been confused because if they do have a suspect, then her blood should be in the car.
Perhaps though, it was the wrong car.
But that too of course.