AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Never having Ubered, I don't know. Perhaps since she had a mobility issue and at her age may have forgotten her phone on a drive when she needed it, she might have an extra phone for her personal security: a home phone, a car phone and one she may or may not have carried with her when she remembered?
Not if her family ordered it for her.
 
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I don't think fingerprinting is really even used anymore with the advances of DNA. It's a pretty unreliable and outdated science.

I just served on a jury for a double murder a few months ago and the issue of fingerprints was brought up by the defense and the experts (there were 3) explained that fingerprinting is used in conjunction with DNA. There was a partial print on one of the cartridges in the gun used but touch DNA on all the others.
 
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Maybe they think the perp went into her car in the garage for some reason. LE/FBI were in NG's garage on Wednesday I believe -- the day they went back to the scene after it had been released.
 
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Yeah, that is a really big problem with her car being involved.

Holding it back doesn't seem to work, because you'd fully expect them to have towed the car if they knew the garage had been opened later on.

I guess disconnected could work...

It's an issue.
They don't have footage of the garage door opening, so I'm assuming its coming from the operator data. Assuming she had one installed in the last few years and it was hooked up to an app, they might be even able to tell how it was opened (force open manually, using someone's specific remote, keypad, etc). But they should have picked up it being disconnected if they were accessing this data the same way.

So they had to have known the door was opened a different time or the operator was disconnected, but don't take the car with them...? I'm just repeating myself again I realize but the more I sit on it the more baffled I get.

Edit: Of course, the car could have not been taken out of the garage. This is speculation under the assumption it was.
 
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If her phone was indeed in her car that makes no sense. She didn’t take her car to dinner so why would her phone be in tjere
Thinking along these lines… if she took an Uber to AG’s house, wouldn’t she need to have it with her on the ride? Or could it be avoided if AG/SIL called the Uber for her?

I’m also interested to see where the info about the phone in her car came from.
 
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Never having Ubered, I don't know. Perhaps since she had a mobility issue and at her age may have forgotten her phone on a drive when she needed it, she might have an extra phone for her personal security: a home phone, a car phone and one she may or may not have carried with her when she remembered?
i'm not buying that.... she didn't pay for camera/security but paid for a whole 2nd mobile phone? i don't think so IMO
 
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I could be wrong. I was referring to LE. I thought early on I heard from them that SIL dropped her off and then that changed after AB released her “info” and they reverted back to family.
The first time SIL specifically came up in relation to the post dinner drop off (on WS) was on Tuesday when someone said an online “outlet” ( showbiz411) that made that claim. LE was not the source of that connection, and from every summary I’ve read of their first few press conferences, they did not say anything about him.
 
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If the garage door opened and closed within minutes of 9PM, that means someone could have gotten into her house via the interior garage door before Nancy was dropped off. I don't know the timing of the garage door openings and closings, though. Opened and closed once, twice, what times? With the remote, or by releasing the drive and opening it by hand? Does opening it by hand log anywhere? So say someone got in at 9 PM, then took Nancy out at 2:30 ish AM but opened the garage by releasing the drive and it didn't log anywhere? Just my thoughts.
Since Nancy had mobility issues and couldn't walk very far, it has never made sense to me that her SIL could drive her home, escort her into the house through the garage door, get her settled inside and be back out the garage door within 2 minutes. I've taken people home who have mobility issues and it has always taken me about 5 minutes. Just getting out of the car takes a minute, then walking slowly and carefully into the house takes another minute and getting the person settled takes at least another minute. JMO
 
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"Authorities said they are reviewing the home's security cameras and have Nancy Guthrie's cellphone."
From the article dated Monday, February 2, 2026, posted below.
Nancy Guthrie's Cell Phone
You mean to say that they found it in the car Monday and just towed the car now? Wow
 
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I missed a couple of hours this evening and don't have the energy to go through layers of posts.

PLEASE give me the cheat sheet for what happened within the past 2 hours. :)
 
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if that's the case then LE purposely left all those garage door openings off the time line.... or it's not possible since there was only the one opening and one closing of the garage door at the time NG got home from dinner.
So, does NG have the smart garage door app that she can open and close garage and also see times the door is opened and closed. I have it. Called My Q? I assumed that's how LE know the times her garage opened and then closed when she was brought home. But what if they are just going on times the person who brought her home said she opened and closed garage.

Did she bring garage opener with her? If she has the My Q she can use that app on her phone. Or she may have the keypad outside the garage. I will try to look at garage pics to see if she has keypad.

If she used My Q app she might have put her phone in her car on her way into house, to charge and be there for church the next day. Seems odd.
 
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Why bother with a ransom? That only seems to further complicate things and leave more evidence that could implicate them?
To buy time.

JMO
 
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They don't have footage of the garage door opening, so I'm assuming its coming from the operator data. Assuming she had one installed in the last few years and it was hooked up to an app, they might be even able to tell how it was opened (force open manually, using someone's specific remote, keypad, etc). But they should have picked up it being disconnected if they were accessing this data the same way.

So they had to have known the door was opened a different time or the operator was disconnected, but don't take the car with them...? I'm just repeating myself again I realize but the more I sit on it the more baffled I get.

Edit: Of course, the car could have not been taken out of the garage. This is speculation under the assumption it was.
Could they have opened the garage, cut the power and then when the vehicle brought back, turned power back on and then didnt reset the time on the opener?
 
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The first time SIL specifically came up in relation to the post dinner drop off (on WS) was on Tuesday when someone said an online “outlet” ( showbiz411) that made that claim. LE was not the source of that connection, and from every summary I’ve read of their first few press conferences, they did not say anything about him.
The sheriff told the New York Times that it was the son in law who made that drop off. I think he was vague both prior, and then after saying that, using "family" instead.

Ms. Guthrie was taken from her home near Tucson, Ariz., against her will sometime between 9:45 p.m. on Saturday and Sunday morning, the authorities said. She had dinner with her daughter Annie and her son-in-law, who live nearby, Sheriff Nanos said. Ms. Guthrie’s son-in law, TC, dropped her off and ensured she made it inside safely before leaving, the sheriff added.

 
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3 deputies at AGs house right now according to News Nation
 
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This is not going to have a happy ending.

Really thinking about NG’s family. Cant even
imagine what they are going through
 
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How do we know the blood drops are from that night? What if she clipped herself earlier in the day working in the yard, and didnt clean it up? I guess if she cut herself she would have mentioned it at dinner with her daughter?
 

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