Welcome! Its a great community, I often have long breaks because life gets in the way, but it always feels like home. Will be great to have your insights as an investigator!Love this, and this is a community I only just joined yesterday. I have been lurking here for years as I am investigator (non-US), but this case was so baffling to me I felt compelled to join the discussion. I personally lurch between the statistical likelihood that someone or group of persons known to NG are responsible, or this is one of the statistical outliers where it is a disturbed and fanatic individual that is less motivated by ransom but more infamy, control, and desire for the attention of SG. Similar to Jodie Foster.
According to this article, LE went up the roof because a neighbor noticed it looked recently redone and thought that the company which renovated it should be looked into.
True. That was my first thought. But I’d think she’d need the phone to be with her for her watch unless she has a separate cellular plan for watch. We have purchased the Apple Watches and phones for our parents due to the falling alerts the watch has. But they need their phone for the watch to work like that.Her daughter may have ordered the Uber.
Right. AND, if it was just a robbery, the bad guys had a couple hrs of an empty house which would have been a lot easier!I’m not sure how often people are killed in robberies gone wrong — I do know it happens — but just anecdotally there are people in my family who have been home when someone broke in. In both instances (very different circumstances, roughly 50 years apart and in different states), they both just kept calm and sat down and didn’t move while the person went through the house and then left. Same thing also happened to a friend of a friend. A resident being home obviously isn’t ideal for a burglar but if you don’t try to stop them or get in their way, you probably won’t get physically hurt since their motive is valuables not murder.
I know NG has been described as “feisty” but still given her limited mobility I really don’t think she would’ve tried to physically take down an intruder. And in any case even if she did end up being killed, I completely agree with you that her body would’ve been left. You create a world of new problems for yourself taking a body when you just wanted money or electronics or whatever.
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There is no way a family member say in passenger seat helped this frail 84 year old woman who requires a cane to walk in just 120 seconds to unbuckle seat belt, grab her belongings in the car, help walk to garage door leading into home, say good bye to love one, then bolt back to car in order to shut garage door 120 seconds after opening. Does not add up
This is what I've been pondering - I just can't imagine this interaction lasting only 2 minutes…. Snipped by me
Agreed. My brother lives on the same *street* as my elderly parents and often shuttles them back and forth from his house to theirs due to their mobility issues. He can open their garage for them….. Snipped by me
What a perceptive and smart neighbor! I’m a little discouraged that the FBI did not go on the roof before. Maybe this is just being an armchair critic, but I would have thought when they did a full sweep of the house it would have included checking the roof, especially since it’s a one story / flat roof house.Mauro added that residents of the area put up wildlife cameras that could have potentially picked up human movement.
Guthrie’s neighbor, Laura Gargano, said she tipped off the police to investigate the roof because of how clean it looked compared to other homes in the neighborhood.
“I did notice on an aerial shot that it looked like her roof had been recoated recently,” Gargano told CNN on Friday. “When you recoat your roof it gets dirty pretty quickly and we’ve had lot of rains the previous three weeks, so it would be normal for a roof to be a little dirty.”
Gargano suggested that detectives check on the contractors who did the roof work before Guthrie’s disappearance.
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Police tow SUV from Nancy Guthrie’s home, take down wired device from roof after tip from neighbor: report
Law enforcement agents confiscated a car parked inside the garage of Nancy Guthrie’s Arizona home Friday, where they also removed a wired device from the roof after they received a tip from a…nypost.com
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Gargano suggested that detectives check on the contractors who did the roof work before Guthrie’s disappearance.
And it actually looks like it might have been visible from the ground, hard to say from the angle of the photo above, but very likely IMOWhat a perceptive and smart neighbor! I’m a little discouraged that the FBI did not go on the roof before. Maybe this is just being an armchair critic, but I would have thought when they did a full sweep of the house it would have included checking the roof, especially since it’s a one story / flat roof house.
It doesn’t say she is invalid. 9:48-9:50 can be close to 3 mins. Driver opens garage door, pulls in, she gets out. My mother in law is same age and uses cane. She can walk, nor far distances but gets around. Doesn’t need help out of car. If NG sees family all the time, there doesn’t need to be a long drawn out goodbye.There is no way a family member say in passenger seat helped this frail 84 year old woman who requires a cane to walk in just 120 seconds to unbuckle seat belt, grab her belongings in the car, help walk to garage door leading into home, say good bye to love one, then bolt back to car in order to shut garage door 120 seconds after opening. Does not add up
And it actually looks like it might have been visible from the ground, hard to say from the angle of the photo above, but very likely IMO
AB has been saying the same thing consistently. I listened carefully, and what she says is that her highly-placed and unimpeachable source told her that TC was considered a prime suspect *at this time*. There’s the qualifier.I edited and deleted that bit because I thought I'd backspaced it out before making following post.
I didn't have a link and kinda half recall it was AB who said it when talking with BE on a broadcast.
And it actually looks like it might have been visible from the ground, hard to say from the angle of the photo above, but very likely IMO
Incredible that with a flat roof they didn’t check it sooner,Agreed about the neighbour. I love it when ordinary folk make deductive leaps like this. Brilliant.
I did think the white paint on the roof looked pretty fresh, but that totally slipped my mind amid all the other theories and bits of info!According to this article, LE went up the roof because a neighbor noticed it looked recently redone and thought that the company which renovated it should be looked into.
Does that mean they found those cameras by chance while checking the roof? :/