AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Couple of thoughts:
1) I think the person responsible is close (family, neighbor, someone who works in the house). This would be irrationally random otherwise. NG isn't a celebrity - even if her daughter is. She isn't wealthy in the manner that usual targets for ransom are and she doesn't live a lifestyle where she's neccessarily exposed (she's not followed by papparazi or the media). There is clearly some knowledge of the house and the fact that there is no subscription for the cameras. Any halfway intelligent person would know that even destroying a camera uploading to the cloud will show everything up to the destruction of the camera - so I think destroying the camera was to avoid anyone watching live (NG? AG?)
2) The perp has a normal M-F 9-5 job. Saturday night / early Sunday seems to fit this AND 2nd note comes out Friday afternoon. Something tells me, based on the timeline - the perp has someone at home expecting them. The times loosely fit a night out: I tell my spouse I'm headed out with the boys. Bars close at 2am. Plausable to say we were kicked out at 2:15am. This would be a valid arrival home closer to 3am if I claim I'm going to a bar across town, stopped for gas, cigarettes, whatever.
3) Blood spatter on porch (as many have pointed out) appears to be aspirated at the doorstep and drops thereafter. The doorstep looks like a small step down or, at least, a threshold to step over - with NG's limited mobility, this step over/down might cause her respiratory exertion resulting in either coughing or heavy exhale through her nose. I think it was a nose bleed - the drops are round and mouth bleeds just don't seem like they fall that way. It looks like she was walking slow on the porch, the drops are close together.
4) I also believe the ransom notes are a distraction or a layer added to cover the real intent. I won't go so far as to say she's no longer alive. But something about the family theory seems to check the boxes. Let's say, hypothethically, you have three children. One is a TV personality on national TV, one is a poet married to a school teacher, and one is a retired Air Force pilot. Would one of them be in a position to feel not as financially secure or not as happy with their lot in life as compared to their siblings? Hypothetically, let's say someone at 10pm calls their spouse letting them know they just dropped off their mom at home safely - but now is headed to the bar in downtown Tucson to meet up with friends - after all, it's saturday night. Same person grabs a few drinks and then heads to NG house. They know the cameras aren't saving any recordings, but disconnects the doorbell cam because it would alert NG or even AG when the doorbell is rung or perhaps it can be turned on remotely by NG is she hears forced entry. Entry is made. No signs of a real struggle because you are known to the NG - until you assault her or she falls. You help her to your car (or a car). You may or may not have a 2nd person helping you - but you do have a place you keep her (is it a storage unit? a partner's place?) Either way, you realize quickly you ARE the prime suspect. You cannot leave your own house now without scrutiny or surviellence by police. You cannot provide proof of life because you simply cannot go to where you are holding her without being found out by LE. Your motive was money - maybe you did intend to kill her and sobered up and realized that was stupid. Maybe the ransom idea then becomes what you go with - which explains waiting so long to send a ransom note. The family records a message on Instagram because they know you'll watch that. References are made to Silence of the Lambs - perhaps because they know it's probably you and that's meaningful to you. You see your wife struggle because you were "out" that night and arrived oddly late. Your brother in law also suspects you and his demeanor is flat because he's talking to you and you know it. You sister in law is full of emotion because she lives in NYC and isn't part of the everyday of the family dynamics in AZ. LE knows it's you and that's why they really haven't done extensive searches with cadaver dogs, sought that TX equestrian group, or had volunteers walking the desert.
With all that said - it could also be someone close to the family following the same script. I just don't believe the excess stuff LE is doing is really progressing the case. I think it might be to gather evidence to make the case stronger - but I think they already know who did it and they are either waiting for him to go to her OR they are negotiating with him in the background while maintaining "no suspect" for the public.
This has been my line of thinking all along...With that being said, I know that we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle. Therefore, I reserve the right to be wrong (which I usually am)!

JMO.
 
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I’m a little behind and not sure if it’s been discussed as to why NG’s car was towed last night.
I’m thinking LE saw evidence from a license plate reader or security camera not at the home that it was being driven that night. Why and by whom? Those are the questions.
 
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We want to know any details about the white van, if it is relevant. We are seekers of new news!

Of course we are! So let's assume it is true. What would it being true suggest to us? That's not rhetorical. I'd really like to discuss it. I just don't have any interesting thoughts on it currently, other than I suppose it would support the idea that an elaborate scheme could've taken place here.

JMO.
 
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Agree, I hired a reputable roofer.He then subbed it out to very sketchy people.The girls of this crew asked to use my bathroom throughout the day.I quickly moved our medications.Very unsettling.
When I heard the mention of roofers in this case, even tangentially, it reminded me of some shady roofers my mother used. Same situation. Someone said that roofers are often in pain due to the nature of their work; it’s pretty grueling and rough on a body. Sometimes they get addicted to pain meds, and, well, you can guess the rest.

In any case, she could have directed them to use the bathroom in the guest house. I would have!
 
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Random speculation..
Wondering if NG regularly attends hair or nail salons?
Has a favorite Italian restaurant?
i don't know about italian... but SG had her at a mexican restaurant in the home town segment!
 
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Maybe she does, but LE doesn’t want to share that information yet.
That reminds me of the case of Elizabeth Smart. Wealty family. Had alarm system. Recently had "roof work" done. Dad forgets to set alarm this one night. Odd job roofer guy slid in through kitchen windows. Left with Elizabeth.
 
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I’m a little behind and not sure if it’s been discussed as to why NG’s car was towed last night.
I’m thinking LE saw evidence from a license plate reader or security camera not at the home that it was being driven that night. Why and by whom? Those are the questions.
Maybe it was seen on the Circle K cam.
 
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Speaking of the guest house… (I’ve seen it called a “casita”)

Does anyone know if Nancy had had a lodger or rented it out? Was it for actual out of town guests?
 
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And if she is not? I would not want to cater to such horrific evil. Unless i was given solid proof, as in bring her right to a designated spot in person.
If she’s not returned, my hope would be that FBI would find the ransomers and prosecute/ recover the funds. Given that the Guthries likely have much more info than we do..if they believe the ransomers have her, I stand behind the decision to pay.
 
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Things im avoiding in 2026 just to be safe: Family game nights, ubers, roofers, white vans, ring cameras without subscriptions. Did i miss anything?
 
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AB recorded this at midnight

 
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He may have walked her in the home through the garage, but left out the front door.
And perhaps ripping that front door camera off when he left. And he could return — undetected by that camera at least.
 
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I’m a little behind and not sure if it’s been discussed as to why NG’s car was towed last night.
I’m thinking LE saw evidence from a license plate reader or security camera not at the home that it was being driven that night. Why and by whom? Those are the questions.
JMO but I really think that it should have been taken on the first search. Or at least kept in a secured crime scene area. But it wasn't. Last night was the 3rd search and seemed to be even more extensive.
 
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If your home is paid for, you have little to no debt, it is worth 1.2 million. You have $500k in CDs, you have a life insurance policy for $1 million, you are worth over 2 million.
do we know she has a million dollar life insurance policy?
 
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If she’s not returned, my hope would be that FBI would find the ransomers and prosecute/ recover the funds. Given that the Guthries likely have much more info than we do..if they believe the ransomers have her, I stand behind the decision to pay.
MOO, the ransom scenario is bogus, and no money/bitcoin has changed hands. I don’t think it can be seized the way cash or ETF can be. That’s why criminals love it.
 
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"the had a leg yo the back door and was already waiting"

You lost me here
They had a key to the back door. Sorry Mild visual impairment, at nighttime, im usually touch typing!
 
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In the very very beginning Sheriff said Nancy needed meds in 24 hours to survive. I would like to know how he got that info? Was it relayed by family that way at initial 911 call? Did he surmise that? Why was it said like that? Is there a reason it was said like that? Did they already know about ransom note when this was said?


 
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