AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #9,701
Note: this is off the cuff … and just my opinion.

In addition to evidence, I’m sure LE has searched everything in Nancy Guthrie’s immediate life to determine a motive but one has not been established. I do not believe this kidnapping was due to Nancy Guthrie’s personality and or lifestyle.

Motives to kidnap:

Financial (ransom): to date the two messages they’re working on have not been confirmed to be from the kidnapper or another hoax.

Power/control/other motives: no supporting evidence to date, such as ‘proof of life’

Personal/emotional: many have targeted Savannah Guthrie’s career even citing some of her work from 2019 ~ carrying a grudge that long would be a motive: revenge.

If we’re discussing Savannah’s, why have we not discussed Colonel Charles ‘Carmron’ Guthrie’s 26-year career in the military?

I’ll preface this by stating; I do come from many generations of military men and women and do not want to attack the Colonel. Matter of fact, based on the information I’ve found this man had a stellar career … and in my opinion his career choice is top notch, but it also comes with ‘cons.’

We’ve seen in the past; military misfits trip offline so I’ll ask ‘If someone was demoted; and later removed from the military to return home but their life continued to unravel – would they take responsibility for their screw-ups and turn their life around or blame another? “

What if that screw-ups home is Arizona, and on an off chance he saw Nancy Guthrie on Savannah’s show two months ago … and he questioned the last name; researched a little bit and began to plan.

Yes, I realize this is completely out of the box but … criminals are that sick. :(
I share this opinion someone in the brothers background with military expierence

The focus is on savannahs status but wouldn't a military person be better at avoiding detection
 
  • #9,702
Sometimes people want "an advance" on the will and it gets denied. If she was going to cut someone out of the will and tell them that .... that would basically be a severance of the relationship. Probably other family members would know about some or all of these things. Just speculating. JMO
So I work in this area and odds are (with SG's knowledge/wealth and NG's wealth and age) NG may have a trust, not a will. A will is basic and has to go through probate, a time-consuming, expensive, public process. A trust would manage more assets, do so privately, and can set things up financially for grandkids, charities, etc. People would still be beneciaries and get money when she passed away. It would also manage the money that NG lives on and protect it in case nursing home care is needed, etc. But it would all be managed by a trustee. A trustee can be a family member, friend, or a bank/corporation. How this factors into a financial motive may still be the same as if it were a will. I just wanted to clarify in case it matters!
 
  • #9,703
There were 2 locks visible in the video's of the front door. That looked to me like a screen door and I'm guessing here that there is a steel door behind that one with a minimum of 1 lock, possibly 2 (door handle and a dead bolt). Unlocking 4 locks takes time. The garage was the easier way.
But then again, why is there blood at the front door? I get she couldn't probobly couldn't access the front, And as there is blood there the person would haven't have known that and possibly taken her out the front, but then they would have had to unlock the doors. Is there a lock on the outside? Was this door also locked? Would they have had to walk round to unlock it? Where are her house keys? Id have thought they are with the car keys..Id think they would need fingerprinting/dna testing. This bit is a little perplexing!
 
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In the press conference the sheriff said AG's car was impounded through a search warrant. He said something like that was normal or usual to do that. But I feel like it's not normal or usual to do that because the search warrant needs to state a very good reason to have suspicions for taking the car. Obviously theyre searching for evidence/DNA, but the question is why? Obviously NG's DNA would probably be in the car from being driven around by her daughter. So the search warrant had to have specified something more than that. Just my opinion/thoughts that that doesn't seem routine.
It's possible that the car was taken to pull data from the onboard computers that would confirm the route the car was driven when the FM took NG home and the route driven when the FM returned to the FM home. I forget from the Kaitlin Armstrong trial if the auto data also had the time along with the route she drove the night she murdered Mo Wilson but I think it did. I didn't know cars did that until that trial.
 
  • #9,705
And do we (i.e. - You all) know if she actually ever made it into the house after being "dropped off"?

rsbm.

AFAIK there is zero independent confirmation that she ever made it back to her house. Period.

moo.
But didn't they say her pacemaker disconnected from app/ Bluetooth like 2:30am which means she was in the home up until that time?
 
  • #9,706
How far is the next home to hers? Hitting things with rocks or bricks would make a lot of racket, bringing a lot of attention to themselves. They’d really be taking a risk doing that.
Here’s a screen cap of an aerial view that shows how close the houses were.
 

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  • #9,707
How far is the next home to hers? Hitting things with rocks or bricks would make a lot of racket, bringing a lot of attention to themselves. They’d really be taking a risk doing that.
Maybe wrap a towel around a bat or golf club would muffle the noise?
 
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I hope i'm extremely wrong but it seems like the Sherrifs department dropped the ball on the investigation and possibly if things were looked at more thoroughly to begin with we wouldn't be nearing day 7 with not many developments.

I truly hope this investigation is a lot further than LE is letting on. For Nancy's sake

JMO

There may be. One of her early jobs was at KVOA, another local station here in Tucson. The local news family is small.

I don’t think we can be sure.
Did KVOA receive a ransom letter? If not, it’s interesting because she worked there and at one point and they are our local NBC station. I wonder if they were left out intentionally?
 
  • #9,709
I've never followed a case this complex, but I have followed countless cases. In doing so, it's easy for me to gauge where law enforcement is with an investigation.

Not only am I not seeing an indication that they are lost, but I'm seeing the opposite. We're not seeing all the things we usually see when that's the case.

Press conferences have become more sporadic, no regular press releases, and they're not asking for tips about vehicles or persons of interest.

I see a focused homicide case.
I think it's very focused on what they're not telling us verses what they are saying. For example...the garage door opened at approximately x time and closed at y time...did it open or close any other times?
Just my opinion and overthinking everything here
 
  • #9,710
AI informs me that SG's net worth is in the neighborhood of $40 million and she makes at least $8 million a year from NBC.

I hope and pray that a suitable ransom gets paid in the next day or two and Nancy is brought back alive to her family.
 
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I share this opinion someone in the brothers background with military expierence

The focus is on savannahs status but wouldn't a military person be better at avoiding detection
Thank you, its been on my mind the last few days. I didn't want to say anything, the Colonel appears to be a very private man ~ rightfully so.

But... military/former military are capable of a lot; so yes, they would be capable of avoiding detection and tormenting the family with ransom notes etc. EDIT to add: the whack-a-doodles with military training.
 
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But then again, why is there blood at the front door? I get she couldn't probobly couldn't access the front, And as there is blood there the person would haven't have known that and possibly taken her out the front, but then they would have had to unlock the doors. Is there a lock on the outside? Was this door also locked? Would they have had to walk round to unlock it? Where are her house keys? Id have thought they are with the car keys..Id think they would need fingerprinting/dna testing. This bit is a little perplexing!
It's possible they had her keys or had received a copy key from someone and did unlock those doors right after they took the door camera.
 
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It occurred to me that while the garage door opened and closed at least one known set of times, we don't know where NG's car was before that. If we don't assume it was in the garage, but possibly parked in the driveway, that opens up the timeline for it to have gone somewhere or been accessed in her absence, imo.
 
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So I work in this area and odds are (with SG's knowledge/wealth and NG's wealth and age) NG may have a trust, not a will. A will is basic and has to go through probate, a time-consuming, expensive, public process. A trust would manage more assets, do so privately, and can set things up financially for grandkids, charities, etc. People would still be beneciaries and get money when she passed away. It would also manage the money that NG lives on and protect it in case nursing home care is needed, etc. But it would all be managed by a trustee. A trustee can be a family member, friend, or a bank/corporation. How this factors into a financial motive may still be the same as if it were a will. I just wanted to clarify in case it matters!
I also believe it's likely there was a revocable trust, which is the most common type.
 
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I've never followed a case this complex, but I have followed countless cases. In doing so, it's easy for me to gauge where law enforcement is with an investigation.

Not only am I not seeing an indication that they are lost, but I'm seeing the opposite. We're not seeing all the things we usually see when that's the case.

Press conferences have become more sporadic, no regular press releases, and they're not asking for tips about vehicles or persons of interest.

I see a focused homicide case.

Agreed. Also being super careful legally with everything so this has a solid prosecution. IMO
 
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But didn't they say her pacemaker disconnected from app/ Bluetooth like 2:30am which means she was in the home up until that time?
It is my belief that she was in the house at that time because the Sheriff noted when the pacemaker disconnected-unless you really want to go rogue and say that both the watch, and Nancy, were elsewhere and arrived back at the house before 2ish. Watch put in charger and then Nancy left/was removed from the home.

The house is in a revocable trust.
 
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It occurred to me that while the garage door opened and closed at least one known set of times, we don't know where NG's car was before that. If we don't assume it was in the garage, but possibly parked in the driveway, that opens up the timeline for it to have gone somewhere or been accessed in her absence, imo.
Yes, I have tried to picture a scenario where that 9:48-9:50pm garage door open/close was NG's car arriving home -- perhaps with her as passenger, perhaps not.

So far I'm not coming up with a theory that seems plausible, but who knows.
 
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How far is the next home to hers? Hitting things with rocks or bricks would make a lot of racket, bringing a lot of attention to themselves. They’d really be taking a risk doing that.
I agree. Our home and property situation is similar to NG’s. No other homes in proximity between 0.5-1 acres. The lack of other homes and buildings near us to buffer noise allows us to hear more than many would realize. I do think if the light was busted by suspect it happened late at night.
 
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Another sheer speculation is that NG may have always bragged about her "famous" daughter, SG. I'm sure that she was very excited about SG being part of Winter Olympics' coverage and probably told everyone at church and in the community to make sure and watch! It's natural for any mother to be proud. Perhaps, AG, who felt that she has always physically been there for her mother, never got any credit. Plus, it is very hard being the middle child sandwiched between two successful children. Just trying to speculate on possible family dynamics.

JMO.
Or she could be immensely proud of her sis and telling everyone that she "taught her everything she knows!"
: )
 
  • #9,720
Kind of off topic but I happened to do some work for the mother of a very famous music mogul almost 20 years ago. She had moved back to her hometown for about a year or so. I got the feeling she was either famous or connected to someone famous. But she didn't divulge that information until I point blank asked. All that to say sometimes family members of famous people don't talk about it unless they trust the person they tell.
I just can't figure this all out
 

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