AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Aquabot13]

What if NG was planning to spend down her estate in some way? Not necessarily changing her will, but thinking about selling the house and moving into a retirement community or something similar? Maybe she had gotten that advice from her doctor or was being hounded by a kid? Maybe even friends who had recently made the move?

My grandparents were in beautiful, upscale continuing care communities. However, the buy-in was several hundreds of thousands of dollars and the monthly fee varied from $4-$10k+. Something like that would be appropriate for someone like Nancy (not saying that she wanted to go!), but would mean that her estate would be significantly smaller when she passed, if there was anything left at all.

Just spitballing because, to me, money as a motive doesn't make sense if someone in the family is the perp. They'd get the estate within the next decade. However, if there wasn't an estate anymore and someone had been counting on that......

Either that or someone needed money much faster than the time it takes to go through settling an estate.

If someone in the family is involved, I think it would be for something like debt or drugs (or both) - they can't exactly start living a super flashy life with their millions in bitcoin while evading suspicion. A hidden expense would explain the desperation behind the crime.

MOO

 

[dogmom805]

It is my belief that she was in the house at that time because the Sheriff noted when the pacemaker disconnected-unless you really want to go rogue and say that both the watch, and Nancy, were elsewhere and arrived back at the house before 2ish. Watch put in charger and then Nancy left/was removed from the home.

The house is in a revocable trust.

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

 

[amelia65452]

I have been gone the whole day and cannot catch up on the 50 pages. Does anyone mind summarizing what has happened today?

 

[Nikynoo]

Here is the first press conf where they talk about the call from the church member at around 11:50 it begins

Facebook

Link doesn’t work for me (just take me to my FB feed). Can you tell me how it’s posted? Is it in LEs page?

 

[PacoElFlaco]

Maybe wrap a towel around a bat or golf club would muffle the noise?

Shoot out the cameras with a high powered air gun.

 

[Nikynoo]

Follow the exercise and see what result you get.

 

[Morag]

Don’t know if this has been mentioned about the ‘movie quotes’ in SG’s response: sometimes there are family jokes which refer to something one member finds interesting or amusing, phrases from The Godfather, Austin Powers, etc. Could the SOTL quotes be a particular phrase used or enjoyed by a possible POI?

 

[Christineeliz88]

Couple options come to mind:
- an app (I've never seen this but it seems that this is common for newer doors/systems)
- if "family" drove her home in her car after borrowing it, the opener would be in the car
- a keypad (this is what I have - you enter a code to open the door and then close it using the button inside)
- "family" who drove her home had their own opener

I think the app or keypad is most likely, IMO, since she would have needed to close the garage door on her way out to the uber if she left that way.

MOO

In one of the videos/live streams of them searching the house one of the agents stands at the left side of the garage door and appears to enter a code at the height of where a keypad would be and the door shuts behind him. I’m assuming that is how family/NG would enter the garage when not in her vehicle with opener. I’ll try to go back and find it. Might take me a bit.
MOO

 

[keek]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

Oh I don't think so. That's a big reach into what is going on now to think that would splayed about here or there. IMO

 

[SUNchips]

OK someone mentioned AG being a jeweler. Honestly, I would doubt she is "that jeweler", she looks like someone selling her stuff on Etsy, but who knows...

But: Annual Tucson Gem and Mineral shows take place from mid-January to late February, with all pre- and post-shows, and of course, not only vendors come but also, lots of scammers and thieves do. The internet dramas I remember following were usually about someone stealing rough, but what do i know? It is a market-based field with all negative sides of it.

One thing that is important: this industry has been using bitcoins since they emerged.

The show is still running, if I am not mistaken. So I wonder if someone could make a connection with the cryptocurrency group?

I don't suspect AG. In fact, I think she is as innocent as other kids of NG. I am just thinking that Tucson may be full of people from different parts of the world for whom crypto is the norm. This year gold and silver are up, so people may be making less.

Yes, I was at the gem show the other day and made the same comment about it being coincidental that this happened during this time of year. It does make me wonder…

According to Google “nearly 65,000 visitors” come internationally to Tucson for the gem show each year. Hotels are full, hard to get restaurant reservations, streets are more crowded. It runs from Jan 28-Feb 15 this year.

 

[rosesfromangels]

@Nikynoo - now take it one more step and ask for the likely occupations of that profile.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[CandyKiss]

Kind of off topic but I happened to do some work for the mother of a very famous music mogul almost 20 years ago. She had moved back to her hometown for about a year or so. I got the feeling she was either famous or connected to someone famous. But she didn't divulge that information until I point blank asked. All that to say sometimes family members of famous people don't talk about it unless they trust the person they tell.
I just can't figure this all out

Similar to those with an abundance of wealth; they don’t flaunt it but deliberately hide it.

 

[Laura Avery]

I have been gone the whole day and cannot catch up on the 50 pages. Does anyone mind summarizing what has happened today?

About 5 million people fell down a rabbit hole whilst feeling powerless and sad that this could be anyones Grandma, and this is the best we can do to help to come up with theories and potential ideas.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

I just checked the Pima County assessor website, and the house is listed under a name that strongly suggests it is a revocable trust. I can't link directly to the source because the assessor site does not provide an obvious way to link to a single record, but anyone who wishes to verify can do so very easily on their own.

 

[dogmom805]

Agreed. Also being super careful legally with everything so this has a solid prosecution. IMO

Mostly agreed, but I can't get past that if LE has certain suspicion, they would allow the family to record that gutwrenching video, to something they think is probably a fake ransom note (IF they have a suspect in mind)?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Armchair detectives flood social media as search for Nancy Guthrie continues

Moments after the news broke about the apparent abduction of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother, the floodgates opened on social media

abcnews.go.com

snip:

"He compared it to the widespread online response to the disappearance and death of Gabby Petito in 2021 and the impact that may have had on her body being found.

Two YouTubers said at the time that an image they posted showed Petito and her boyfriend's white van and that it led investigators to the area where her body was found. But the FBI didn't specify what led to the discovery.'

 

[CrimeDawg123]

There is evidence suggesting that Nancy Guthrie's front door may have been locked, as a blood trail was found outside her home, indicating that someone may have entered through the front door.
So if Nancy used the garage due to Mobility issues, how did the possible perps get in the front door, Did they take her out the lock it again afterwards?

That's a good point - if they took her out the front would they really have taken the time to lock the door? Was Nancy just standing there while they did that? I mean, I can't really picture that would be a priority.

 

[birdbox]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

Smart lady if true. Very smart.

 

[louvillian08]

If it was someone in the family, they would know 1) about the pacemaker and 2) about NG consistently virtually attending church every Sunday. It makes zero sense why they would wait nearly 36 hours to send a ransom note. Well after she was taken, when police would be able to pinpoint the pacemaker disconnection, after someone noticed her missing, even well after her disappearance was public.

The ransom notes (if truly related) seem like an attempt at muddying the waters. You don’t wait that long if your goal is money. Especially if you have enough “inside info” to know when her disappearance will likely be discovered

 

[Cassie P]

Harvey said that “maybe they’re (LE) looking for a really intelligent person, who’s text savvy and who also has gone missing in the last week”. He also went on to say the letter is “constructed well, it’s layered, it’s grammatically all correct”. It appears the letter comes from a sophisticated, intelligent person.

So not someone young. At least someone in their 30's, college educated, high IQ. Tech and finance skills. Also able to plan a kidnapping, and house the victim in way she cannot identify the kidnappers.