Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[keek]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

Oh I don't think so. That's a big reach into what is going on now to think that would splayed about here or there. IMO

 

[SUNchips]

OK someone mentioned AG being a jeweler. Honestly, I would doubt she is "that jeweler", she looks like someone selling her stuff on Etsy, but who knows...

But: Annual Tucson Gem and Mineral shows take place from mid-January to late February, with all pre- and post-shows, and of course, not only vendors come but also, lots of scammers and thieves do. The internet dramas I remember following were usually about someone stealing rough, but what do i know? It is a market-based field with all negative sides of it.

One thing that is important: this industry has been using bitcoins since they emerged.

The show is still running, if I am not mistaken. So I wonder if someone could make a connection with the cryptocurrency group?

I don't suspect AG. In fact, I think she is as innocent as other kids of NG. I am just thinking that Tucson may be full of people from different parts of the world for whom crypto is the norm. This year gold and silver are up, so people may be making less.

Yes, I was at the gem show the other day and made the same comment about it being coincidental that this happened during this time of year. It does make me wonder…

According to Google “nearly 65,000 visitors” come internationally to Tucson for the gem show each year. Hotels are full, hard to get restaurant reservations, streets are more crowded. It runs from Jan 28-Feb 15 this year.

 

[rosesfromangels]

@Nikynoo - now take it one more step and ask for the likely occupations of that profile.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[CandyKiss]

Kind of off topic but I happened to do some work for the mother of a very famous music mogul almost 20 years ago. She had moved back to her hometown for about a year or so. I got the feeling she was either famous or connected to someone famous. But she didn't divulge that information until I point blank asked. All that to say sometimes family members of famous people don't talk about it unless they trust the person they tell.
I just can't figure this all out

Similar to those with an abundance of wealth; they don’t flaunt it but deliberately hide it.

 

[Laura Avery]

I have been gone the whole day and cannot catch up on the 50 pages. Does anyone mind summarizing what has happened today?

About 5 million people fell down a rabbit hole whilst feeling powerless and sad that this could be anyones Grandma, and this is the best we can do to help to come up with theories and potential ideas.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

I just checked the Pima County assessor website, and the house is listed under a name that strongly suggests it is a revocable trust. I can't link directly to the source because the assessor site does not provide an obvious way to link to a single record, but anyone who wishes to verify can do so very easily on their own.

 

[dogmom805]

Agreed. Also being super careful legally with everything so this has a solid prosecution. IMO

Mostly agreed, but I can't get past that if LE has certain suspicion, they would allow the family to record that gutwrenching video, to something they think is probably a fake ransom note (IF they have a suspect in mind)?

 

[Izzylizzy]

Armchair detectives flood social media as search for Nancy Guthrie continues

Moments after the news broke about the apparent abduction of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother, the floodgates opened on social media

abcnews.go.com

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"He compared it to the widespread online response to the disappearance and death of Gabby Petito in 2021 and the impact that may have had on her body being found.

Two YouTubers said at the time that an image they posted showed Petito and her boyfriend's white van and that it led investigators to the area where her body was found. But the FBI didn't specify what led to the discovery.'

 

[CrimeDawg123]

There is evidence suggesting that Nancy Guthrie's front door may have been locked, as a blood trail was found outside her home, indicating that someone may have entered through the front door.
So if Nancy used the garage due to Mobility issues, how did the possible perps get in the front door, Did they take her out the lock it again afterwards?

That's a good point - if they took her out the front would they really have taken the time to lock the door? Was Nancy just standing there while they did that? I mean, I can't really picture that would be a priority.

 

[birdbox]

Curious, has this been reported that the house is in a revocable trust (source)? TY

Smart lady if true. Very smart.

 

[louvillian08]

If it was someone in the family, they would know 1) about the pacemaker and 2) about NG consistently virtually attending church every Sunday. It makes zero sense why they would wait nearly 36 hours to send a ransom note. Well after she was taken, when police would be able to pinpoint the pacemaker disconnection, after someone noticed her missing, even well after her disappearance was public.

The ransom notes (if truly related) seem like an attempt at muddying the waters. You don’t wait that long if your goal is money. Especially if you have enough “inside info” to know when her disappearance will likely be discovered

 

[Cassie P]

Harvey said that “maybe they’re (LE) looking for a really intelligent person, who’s text savvy and who also has gone missing in the last week”. He also went on to say the letter is “constructed well, it’s layered, it’s grammatically all correct”. It appears the letter comes from a sophisticated, intelligent person.

So not someone young. At least someone in their 30's, college educated, high IQ. Tech and finance skills. Also able to plan a kidnapping, and house the victim in way she cannot identify the kidnappers.

 

[DizzyB]

What if NG was planning to spend down her estate in some way? Not necessarily changing her will, but thinking about selling the house and moving into a retirement community or something similar? Maybe she had gotten that advice from her doctor or was being hounded by a kid? Maybe even friends who had recently made the move?

My grandparents were in beautiful, upscale continuing care communities. However, the buy-in was several hundreds of thousands of dollars and the monthly fee varied from $4-$10k+. Something like that would be appropriate for someone like Nancy (not saying that she wanted to go!), but would mean that her estate would be significantly smaller when she passed, if there was anything left at all.

Just spitballing because, to me, money as a motive doesn't make sense if someone in the family is the perp. They'd get the estate within the next decade. However, if there wasn't an estate anymore and someone had been counting on that......

Either that or someone needed money much faster than the time it takes to go through settling an estate.

If someone in the family is involved, I think it would be for something like debt or drugs (or both) - they can't exactly start living a super flashy life with their millions in bitcoin while evading suspicion. A hidden expense would explain the desperation behind the crime.

MOO

Sometimes families will compensate a member who takes care of an elderly relative in some way-they end up inheriting the house, or actually receive money to help with a parent. It can work well, especially if there is a disparity in income between family members. It would not make sense for an individual to eliminate the source of income, unless circumstances were changing. Although murder makes zero sense period.

 

[Starkville]

There is evidence suggesting that Nancy Guthrie's front door may have been locked, as a blood trail was found outside her home, indicating that someone may have entered through the front door.
So if Nancy used the garage due to Mobility issues, how did the possible perps get in the front door, Did they take her out the lock it again afterwards?

IIRC, when the family arrived, the back door was “open” (I don’t know if that means “unlocked” or “ajar”). The front door was locked. Allegedly. No mention of the garage door, but I’m assuming it was closed.

 

[MesquiteO21]

There’s something nagging me about them releasing a detailed timeline within the first few days. While the logical part of me understands that they are probably doing it in part to jog people’s memories/to check their own cameras at certain times, there’s something else I can’t put my finger that feels weird and unusual about it.

Anyone else feel the same, or am I just off my rocker? (Ok yes probably am regardless )

moo

 

[aTexasDarling]

Who called the family saying NG wasn’t at church? I’ve read she didn’t attend services since covid and watched the livestream from her home. I haven’t seen anything about this.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I have been gone the whole day and cannot catch up on the 50 pages. Does anyone mind summarizing what has happened today?

Nothing

 

[shonyakay]

DBM

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

Another possibility is that she was giving them money/supplementing their income and told them that had to stop.

Or, she lent them money for the downpayment on their $650k home (in order for them to be able to qualify for a lower amount of money borrowed through the bank). Perhaps, they promised to pay it back with the sale of their former home and didn't do so...or they paid some of it back but not all of it. What if NG was pressuring them for the rest of the borrowed money?

So many times I have seen the borrower actually resent the person who lent them the money in the first place. It never made sense to me. People rationalize all sorts of things. Maybe, they figured that they were there locally and were the ones helping her with the children that she always bragged about nowhere in sight when needed.

JMO.

 

[CandyKiss]

Another sheer speculation is that NG may have always bragged about her "famous" daughter, SG. I'm sure that she was very excited about SG being part of Winter Olympics' coverage and probably told everyone at church and in the community to make sure and watch! It's natural for any mother to be proud. Perhaps, AG, who felt that she has always physically been there for her mother, never got any credit. Plus, it is very hard being the middle child sandwiched between two successful children. Just trying to speculate on possible family dynamics.

JMO.

AG was the oldest, CG middle child and SG youngest.