AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bluewing3102]

Large topographic maps are paper. They could be getting ready to do a grid search. Thoughts? Maybe they have narrowed down cell tower trace of something??

Couldn't they also be blueprints?

 

[ttjo]

Maybe Valero


Never mind. Maybe it isn't. Maps shows "Circle K" gas (which are gold) Valeros's blue and they're dominant here, but maybe they they changed their style. These pumps have been here since 2019.

I just can't find any other blue gas pumps. Maybe it's a local energy company???

Valero and Circle K often team up.

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Why are you asking about the brand of gas. I know it's a Circle K store.
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Could it be an ARGO? similar building in the background but its missing the overhead door on the side? its on North Oracke road?

 

[shonyakay]

One other interesting thing is that the Sheriff stated that there wouldn't be any more press conferences until next Thursday.

 

[mikeshanty]

Not DJT, and not NBC either. This would inspire so many copycat crimes if it was made known that some benefactor stepped up to pay the ransom.

Exactly. It would be a complete act of lunacy.

 

[katydid23]

According to Google, Bitcoin can be trace by the government. If the family paid the ransom, they could arrest the person and retrieve the money.

IF they don't have proof of life, I'd send them 200k, tell them the rest is coming soon and then hope that the FBI could trace it...

 

[wyome]

One other interesting thing is that the Sheriff stated that there wouldn't be any more press conferences until next Thursday.

Well now that is interesting. Why specifically next Thursday?

 

[Sessiebo]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

If anyone payed any kind of ransom they should never ever make this public because it opens up the road to so many other crazies thinking they can get rich quick through abduction.

 

[Arkay]

I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..

I have the opposite opinion.

IMO, can they really speak “man to man” when they’re not on an equal footing? At the moment all the power is in the hands of whomever took Nancy.

What you see as lukewarm, I see as tightly controlled rage, knowing his mother’s life is up to the kidnapper right now.

He’s career military but he’s a jet fighter pilot, not National Guard. I presume he is accustomed to being in control in dangerous situations, and to keep emotion in check so he can do his highly skilled job.

But right now, he is forced to “play nice” in order to have a mother again.

JMO

 

[Napoli]

Hopefully, there's something helpful on the camera. Fingers Crossed.

I think it would not be permitted for third parties to finance a ransom, especially not the President. Presumably it would open up the third party to persistent blackmail and extortion in the future, and might even harm the family's chances as it might escalate the negotiation ("oh, I might try my luck for 1 billion dollars in that case"). Just my opinion.

Just because the daughter has money...i just dont think why ANYONE should think it is her responsibility to pay it. Plus, I am confident it isn't all sitting in a bank account somewhere. Stocks, bonds real estate etc. It takes awhile to liquidate assets. ALL OF THIS is a family matter. Whatever person has a will, trust, 40 million etc is family business. This is a CRIME. NO ONE ALONE should have to shoulder this, regardless of his/her worth. I predict an exotic twist to all of it. Some terrorist group, some political fringe, something along that line. This kidnaping is a statement, not really a ransom situation. JMO.

 

[cathathorse]

I don't really understand why they will not confirm if it was forced entry or not? Surely if it was not forced it kind of eliminates who could have done it?

I know that there is a lot of uncertainty as to whether or not to take Ashleigh Banfield seriously, but in her report she did mention that the backdoor was found wide open. If it was a glass sliding door, as are common in Arizona and the southwest US, those are not that difficult to pry open.

 

[Vegasgrl]

Because it wouldn’t just be one person who knows. Ransom payments involve multiple actors and create trails. And once a perpetrator believes a powerful third party is involved, it changes their behaviour, usually by escalating demands. That’s why this scenario doesn’t work in real life.

It's untraceable (if you want it to be). LE, three news organizations, and the family all have the Bitcoin account number for the transfer. BTW, I think SG started to prepare for a possible payment days ago. She can afford to pay.

 

[Sundog]

I agree, because even if there's no immediate gain, it's possible that a newly revised will or trust was destroyed, or even anger about being denied money. Perhaps an initial attempt to make an incident appear to be a natural illness or death went wrong. There might have been long simmering anger that we aren't aware of. Much of what happened appears very carefully premeditated. It's baffling though, and other scenarios are possible.

I would think that there would be another copy of a newly revised will or trust, either with another family member and with an attorney.

 

[dogmom805]

On the contrary, I think the brother being a military guy, presents in a non-emotional way. Not to say he does not feel deep suffering. Surely all are short on sleep and in shock. Probably also was following a script given by LE or attorneys.

I also can't imagine how strange it would feel speaking into a camera thinking it may be someone who actually abducted and harmed and possibly killed your mother, vs in reality actually speaking to someone who faked a ransom note and is trying to cash in and feeding off the attention, and not knowing which it is. Chilling and so sad.

 

[KrisCo16]

Well now that is interesting. Why specifically next Thursday?

I heard this morning there wouldn’t be another unless something big happened? MOO.

 

[keek]

I have the opposite opinion.

IMO, can they really speak “man to man” when they’re not on an equal footing? At the moment all the power is in the hands of whomever took Nancy.

What you see as lukewarm, I see as tightly controlled rage, knowing his mother’s life is up to the kidnapper right now.

He’s career military but he’s a jet fighter pilot, not National Guard. I presume he is accustomed to being in control in dangerous situations, and to keep emotion in check so you can do your highly skilled job.

But right now, he is forced to “play nice” in order to have a mother again.

JMO

Tightly controlled rage all the way.

 

[Cassie P]

If there was no blood located inside. There is a good chance she never made it inside, and then it was made to look like a disturbance had happened inside.

There has been NO confirmation from the police if her medication was left at the home

The police are keeping this very close to their chest, understandable.

But I think they are moving very quickly with this, and the video footage from the gas station, any video clips from her home, and other streets, could be the final evidence they need

I think this was premeditated, and the person/persons are well-connected to her

I am still waiting, like others, for the Police to talk to the media and get more facts

I wonder the same. Did NG ever make it back to her home? Could it have been staged afterwards to make it look like she was taken from her home. When it fact she was not.

 

[dogmom805]

If anyone payed any kind of ransom they should never ever make this public because it opens up the road to so many other crazies thinking they can get rich quick through abduction.

Truth.

 

[shonyakay]

There's a lot of talk going around, but it's always best to hear from a law enforcement officer's mouth. Get to the facts

I get that but this Sheriff has been wishy washy.

 

[Napoli]

I have the opposite opinion.

IMO, can they really speak “man to man” when they’re not on an equal footing? At the moment all the power is in the hands of whomever took Nancy.

What you see as lukewarm, I see as tightly controlled rage, knowing his mother’s life is up to the kidnapper right now.

He’s career military but he’s a jet fighter pilot, not National Guard. I presume he is accustomed to being in control in dangerous situations, and to keep emotion in check so you can do your highly skilled job.

But right now, he is forced to “play nice” in order to have a mother again.

JMO

He was in the air national guard as a fighter pilot. Retired as a Colonel. Please recheck your sources.

 

[thefragile7393]

I thought the plea by her son yesterday was luke warm at best. I would have expected a former military guy, career National Guard is what has been said, would have spoken more man to man..

? I would expect him to be exactly as he presented himself.