AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[EightiesBoo]

Oh you know I never thought of her opening the front door, once inside, but then it's seemingly locked again.

Exactly, I have a lot of older people in there 80’s in my life and they would absolutely open the door in the middle of the night. In a safe area, wanting to take care of people. It’s not beyond comprehension.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Legit question. Grok, write me a ransom letter that would be untraceable of any emotion or clues for an elderly lady kidnapping and plot out my strategy to avoid detection....ever.

Would the ransom note composition be recorded or monitored anywhere? Could the company that runs the AI contact LE and say they saw someone use their software for a purpose that looks suspicious due to certain details related to NG and it was used before it was sent to the news stations?

 

[dogmom805]

They should probably pay it. Hell, NBC should secretly pay it. NG comes back, SG comes back, Today Show ratings go through the roof. I don't mean to be flip. Just that, they have the means, at this point, do you just take your chances. The DT comment about "a solution" was an odd choice of words, but who knows, he likes saying words. It actually did make me think for the first time that Nancy could still be alive. I don't know. This whole case is off the rails. We may never know.

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

 

[Moonchime]

If the SIL isn’t involved, AB will be in a boatload of trouble, career wise, reputation and financially. She would have to believe without any doubt, what she was told is the absolute truth. She cannot backpedal because of the harm caused emotionally, financially, mentally, physically, spiritually. Her own security could be compromised.

That may be true; however, it's interesting that they're canvassing the area between the two Guthrie homes.

 

[UK Girl]

I've been theorizing similar to you. Though I was considering NG to still be alive when the car pulls into the garage. And possibly when they leave the home too.
Also, yes pacemakers often have to be turned off after death, this can be done with a magnet. But it's stated she had a pacemaker app on her phone, theres also things like Life Alert. LE likely has way more data than we know.
Car pulls into garage with occupants, door shuts. Then we have no idea what's going on in the home until the ring cam disconnects in the early AM. I'm very curious when anyone last saw Nancy prior to this family get together.

I’m thinking forced entry may have been from the door inside the garage to the house. I think the perp may have snuck inside the garage when NG was brought home that night. He waited until he thought she would be asleep. After he confronted her he opened the front door and leaning out he disabled the doorbell camera. He then drove her away in her car perhaps after smashing another camera first. The roofing idea is also on my mind. Perhaps that one camera smashed was an oops I accidentally broke it not. The camera on the pool house may have been disabled on purpose while work was done.

I don't really understand why they will not confirm if it was forced entry or not? Surely if it was not forced it kind of eliminates who could have done it?

 

[turaj]

oh lord Mark Geragos LOLOLOL. Too many memories of him

i don't like the guy but at this point I think behind the scenes if that last message had any info to confirm they have NG they might be making some moves to pay the ransom.

 

[Moonchime]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

Wouldn't that be something!?!

 

[dogmom805]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

I can think of various reasons why he would.

 

[SMK777]

I've never followed a case this complex, but I have followed countless cases. In doing so, it's easy for me to gauge where law enforcement is with an investigation.

Not only am I not seeing an indication that they are lost, but I'm seeing the opposite. We're not seeing all the things we usually see when that's the case.

Press conferences have become more sporadic, no regular press releases, and they're not asking for tips about vehicles or persons of interest.

I see a focused homicide case.

So glad you are saying that. If anyone here has a history of accuracy with case predictions, it's you, @MassGuy .

 

[serenebee23]

I would guess with her impressive income SG has probably removed herself purposely from any monetary interest in NG’s trust? I’m sure SG’s only interest would be in sentimental items. I am also guessing either SG or her brother are the executor of the trust.

I would think maybe SG is too busy and lives too far to be trustee. It could be a family lawyer or bank trust company to have a professional and neutral trustee. Especially if NG gets money from it to live on and for healthcare needs, I think someone local and with more time would need to manage and disburse money. But yes I'd also assume SG is not standing to get much money upon NG's passing. Jmo.

 

[mikeshanty]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

I think it would not be permitted for third parties to finance a ransom, especially not the President. Presumably it would open up the third party to persistent blackmail and extortion in the future, and might even harm the family's chances as it might escalate the negotiation ("oh, I might try my luck for 1 billion dollars in that case"). Just my opinion.

 

[Laura Avery]

I believe also Pacemakers "disconnect" once there is no detectable heart rhythm. Although this may have moved on in the
past 10 years since my personal knowledge of one, especially now that there are apps. Grandpa had one that was wifi connected to some phone type alarm thing his sons end, it stopped transmitting once and we found him completely alive and fairly perplexed, one of the wires had come loose, he wouldn't have been well in a few hours though id guess.

 

[Izzylizzy]

First of all, I want to apologize for jumping the gun regarding the white van being found. I got that tip from a valued source this morning, but all these hours later, I went back to my source and the tip was walked back. Unfortunately, there's been a bungled investigation, calling to mind "shades of Jon Benet Ramsey" where misinformation ran rampant. In fact, it seems Donald Trump was also jumping the gun yesterday when he suggested that information from the FBI or DOJ "could come out soon," hinting that a suspect had been identified. That comment was made over 18 hours ago, with no follow up -- yet. All of this leaves us in the dark, hoping that sophisticated FBI devices will be able to identify Nancy's abductor.

LET ME ADD THIS: Savannah is a person of faith who has total belief in the power of prayer. In fact, in 2024, she published a bestseller titled "Mostly What God Does," describing how her faith helped her during the most difficult times in her life. OF COURSE she and her family are praying and believing that Nancy is alive, and why would anyone want to squelch that hope?

At the same time, the intense focus on this case, fueled by the combination of celebrity, crime, and mystery, has become a national obsession. We have not seen this much media coverage since the O.J. Simpson case, and it makes sense that the public wants to help. There ARE signs of forced entry into that house, and many of Nancy's neighbors fear there's a killer on the loose, so as websleuths, we need to stay diligent and keep our ears and eyes open. If any one of us stumbles on a new fact, or are able to interpret the few clues we now have, please report it to authorities. And meantime, LET US PRAY.

I appreciate your return and informing us what happened with your source and the white van.

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I've criticized Sheriff Nanos numerous times for being unprofessional, too emotionally invested and it was good news that he's not doing any more interviews so we don't have to wait for him to walk back his statements.

Ashleigh Banfield?
She's extremely confident in her source and isn't backing down even after taking a lot of blow-back.
There's no comparison though because she's pointed at a family member as a "maybe" suspect not a white van being found or Trump will have great news forthcoming.

I like AB and for her sake and reputation I would usually want her source to be correct but not being able to begin to imagine the devastation it would do to SG- siblings-family on top of what has happened to their mother I hope AB is wrong.

Welcome to Websleuths.
imo

 

[turaj]

You know she is. My sister is an attorney and of course she was my dad's executor, despite me being the oldest and having a degree in finance and working on PhD in cybersecurity. That law degree is going to trump out just about anything! Lol!!

being the executor is really no big deal. Mostly sign things and trust the lawyers and accountants know what they are doing.

 

[missy1974]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

It never crossed my mind until now... I want to say I hope so, but if he did and she has not been returned, then I hope not.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

That’s another clickbait headline, it essentially means the gas station between the two homes.

Wow! The most important information here is that they are canvassing the area between the two houses.

That may be true; however, it's interesting that they're canvassing the area between the two Guthrie homes.

 

[shonyakay]

Maybe Sheriff Nanos wasn't incompetent after all. Maybe witnesses were changing their stories.

 

[Sadi]

That may be true; however, it's interesting that they're canvassing the area between the two Guthrie homes.

Exactly that makes sense, both cars, the Uber will shown on many different cameras. Including neighbors cameras and any other cars that have cameras in their cars. It was shared earlier today that FBI involvement is due to crossing state lines, death or both. They’re looking and I hope they will be able to recover N soon.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020256398127559162

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Either it's a standard script that FBI uses for this situation, which the writers of Silence of the Lambs used for accuracy, or maybe Annie the writer of the family (with a seemingly morbid imagination, given descriptions of her poetry) was selected by the family to write the statement, and she quoted the movie deliberately.

Just me, but I wouldn't be playing games and getting too cutesy with my mom’s life.