AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[StarryStarryNight]

Either it's a standard script that FBI uses for this situation, which the writers of Silence of the Lambs used for accuracy, or maybe Annie the writer of the family (with a seemingly morbid imagination, given descriptions of her poetry) was selected by the family to write the statement, and she quoted the movie deliberately.

Just me, but I wouldn't be playing games and getting too cutesy with my mom’s life.

 

[EightiesBoo]

I’m sure that LE and/or FBI did some kind of cell phone dump too — where they can tell what devices are in the area, and when. I’m hoping something like that would get them information on maybe out of character devices in the last few weeks or even months. It’s take a long time to go through all that information. I hope that the criminal is nice and stupid!

 

[outback]

Now I'm thinking about the AG home. I don't recall if LE took evidence from their home? Did AG just allow it, or was there a warrant? They would likely have a security system too? Could be helpful in proof of timeline - when NG left the home and the driver returned. Do they have a cloud subscription? This could rule them out and quash rumors. Unless they're connected to perp and there was a conspiracy? If someone was falsely accusing me of a crime (even a strong implication that I was a "prime suspect"), I would consult with my attorney and publicly deny any part of a vicious implication that I was involved in a crime like this. I wouldn't want any time wasted focusing on me. They would not need a warrant for my car or home. Unless my lawyer strongly advised me not to.

Good point about them possibly having cloud. I'm not an expert on technical issues but surely someone can answer these questions...

If they had ring cameras it would definitely prove the uber account, and how and when she went home.

If AC and SIL had their own security system it would back their story. It could tell the police when it was started and stopped at any time. Cameras would show anyone leaving that house that night Unless turned off, am I right?

Sorry, I'm not a good at writing or technology.

Jmo

 

[UsernameRequired]

Or, she lent them money for the downpayment on their $650k home (in order for them to be able to qualify for a lower amount of money borrowed through the bank). Perhaps, they promised to pay it back with the sale of their former home and didn't do so...or they paid some of it back but not all of it. What if NG was pressuring them for the rest of the borrowed money?

So many times I have seen the borrower actually resent the person who lent them the money in the first place. It never made sense to me. People rationalize all sorts of things. Maybe, they figured that they were there locally and were the ones helping her with the children that she always bragged about nowhere in sight when needed.

JMO.

It's possible but the county records show they bought their previous home in 2010 for only $140k. Then sold it 15 years later, last year in June for $379k. They then put down nearly $300k as a downpayment on their current home that they paid $650k. They obviously didn't need financial help and the only names on the title of the homes are their own.

 

[Sadi]

They should probably pay it. Hell, NBC should secretly pay it. NG comes back, SG comes back, Today Show ratings go through the roof. I don't mean to be flip. Just that, they have the means, at this point, do you just take your chances. The DT comment about "a solution" was an odd choice of words, but who knows, he likes saying words. It actually did make me think for the first time that Nancy could still be alive. I don't know. This whole case is off the rails. We may never know.

Someone could have paid it and not releasing that information to the public.

 

[bestill]

They should probably pay it. Hell, NBC should secretly pay it. NG comes back, SG comes back, Today Show ratings go through the roof. I don't mean to be flip. Just that, they have the means, at this point, do you just take your chances. The DT comment about "a solution" was an odd choice of words, but who knows, he likes saying words. It actually did make me think for the first time that Nancy could still be alive. I don't know. This whole case is off the rails. We may never know.

I have said that for days!!

 

[mikeshanty]

It never crossed my mind until now... I want to say I hope so, but if he did and she has not been returned, then I hope not.

Putting speculation aside, this really doesn’t make sense operationally. Introducing a high-profile third party into an active ransom situation would almost certainly worsen things, not resolve them.

If a perpetrator believed a billionaire / president had become involved, demands would likely escalate, timelines would change, and negotiations could become performative rather than controlled. That is precisely what professional negotiators try to avoid.

It would also expose the Guthrie family to long-term risk; once it’s known that an outside benefactor will step in, you incentivise repeat extortion, hoaxes, and future blackmail. It is one of the main reasons why third-party intervention is discouraged.

 

[Laura Avery]

So possibly it could have disconnected as out of range..if so how far? So Doo1.47 bell removed and 2.12 something caught on camera and 2.28 pacemaker stops. How far would the pacemakers range reach the phone?
A pacemaker disconnecting from its app is usually due to technical or connectivity issues, not a failure of the pacemaker itself.

Common​

Pacemaker apps, such as Medtronic CareLink or MyCareLink Smart, serve primarily as remote monitoring tools rather than controlling the heart rhythm. Disconnection often occurs due to:

• Bluetooth or phone issues: The phone’s Bluetooth may be off, unstable, or attempting to connect to multiple devices simultaneously, preventing proper communication with the pacemaker reader/monitor.
  Reader/monitor problems: The pacemaker’s reader may be out of range, uncharged, or not properly paired with the app.
  App or OS updates: Outdated app versions or recent iOS/Android updates can disrupt permissions or background activity, blocking data transmission.
  Corrupted app data: Sometimes reinstalling the app resolves transmission issues.
  Device mismatch: Using a reader not assigned to the specific pacemaker or accidental use of another person’s reader can prevent syncing.
  Clinic or server setup: If the clinic has not fully activated the device in their remote monitoring system, the app may fail to sync.
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[turaj]

I would think maybe SG is too busy and lives too far to be trustee. It could be a family lawyer or bank trust company to have a professional and neutral trustee. Especially if NG gets money from it to live on and for healthcare needs, I think someone local and with more time would need to manage and disburse money. But yes I'd also assume SG is not standing to get much money upon NG's passing. Jmo.

was talking about executor of the estate.....as for trustees who knows.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I am NOT Bitcoin savvy at all. I spent 10 minutes or so reading up on it. Bitcoin seems so risky and volatile. If I was demanding ransom, I wouldn't ask for Bitcoin. JMO

 

[priyaya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020174121708159305

kidnapping = FBI

 

[turaj]

Putting speculation aside, this really doesn’t make sense operationally. Introducing a high-profile third party into an active ransom situation would almost certainly worsen things, not resolve them.

If a perpetrator believed a billionaire / former president had become involved, demands would likely escalate, timelines would change, and negotiations could become performative rather than controlled. That is precisely what professional negotiators try to avoid.

It would also expose the Guthrie family to long-term risk; once it’s known that an outside benefactor will step in, you incentivise repeat extortion, hoaxes, and future blackmail. It is one of the main reasons why third-party intervention is discouraged.

amusing idea but. DJT not paying any ransom as sitting president of the US.

 

[Vegasgrl]

Putting speculation aside, this really doesn’t make sense operationally. Introducing a high-profile third party into an active ransom situation would almost certainly worsen things, not resolve them.

If a perpetrator believed a billionaire / former president had become involved, demands would likely escalate, timelines would change, and negotiations could become performative rather than controlled. That is precisely what professional negotiators try to avoid.

It would also expose the Guthrie family to long-term risk; once it’s known that an outside benefactor will step in, you incentivise repeat extortion, hoaxes, and future blackmail. It is one of the main reasons why third-party intervention is discouraged.

How could they know who paid it...until it is revealed? Or, not.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I’m thinking forced entry may have been from the door inside the garage to the house. I think the perp may have snuck inside the garage when NG was brought home that night. He waited until he thought she would be asleep. After he confronted her he opened the front door and leaning out he disabled the doorbell camera. He then drove her away in her car perhaps after smashing another camera first. The roofing idea is also on my mind. Perhaps that one camera smashed was an oops I accidentally broke it not. The camera on the pool house may have been disabled on purpose while work was done.

If there was no blood located inside. There is a good chance she never made it inside, and then it was made to look like a disturbance had happened inside.

There has been NO confirmation from the police if her medication was left at the home

The police are keeping this very close to their chest, understandable.

But I think they are moving very quickly with this, and the video footage from the gas station, any video clips from her home, and other streets, could be the final evidence they need

I think this was premeditated, and the person/persons are well-connected to her

I am still waiting, like others, for the Police to talk to the media and get more facts

 

[mikeshanty]

How could they know who paid it...until it is revealed? Or, not.

Because it wouldn’t just be one person who knows. Ransom payments involve multiple actors and create trails. And once a perpetrator believes a powerful third party is involved, it changes their behaviour, usually by escalating demands. That’s why this scenario doesn’t work in real life.

 

[bestill]

I'm wondering that flood light really was broken while the roof was being sealed. A bucket of sealant taking a wild swing into it could conceivably hit hard enough to break the brick. JMO

I would hope that investigators can tell if it's recent or old damage.

Wow! The most important information here is that they are canvassing the area between the two houses.

To me between the two homes means they are tracing the activity of the comings and goings the best they can based on what they've been told happened last weekend.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Maybe Sheriff Nanos wasn't incompetent after all. Maybe witnesses were changing their stories.

I would think that LE would have a higher standard of proof then just running with a witness'es statement to the public before it was verified then verified again.
imo

 

[smileyface516]

amusing idea but. DJT not paying any ransom as sitting president of the US.

Not DJT, and not NBC either. This would inspire so many copycat crimes if it was made known that some benefactor stepped up to pay the ransom.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I am NOT Bitcoin savvy at all. I spent 10 minutes or so reading up on it. Bitcoin seems so risky and volatile. If I was demanding ransom, I wouldn't ask for Bitcoin. JMO

Agree.
Fake money in my opinion. Backed by nothing.

 

[Luna20]

I was already thinking DJT maybe already DID pay it, and they are not telling.

I hadnt thought about that but it was peculiar that he said the FBI made progress and they thought it was going in the right direction. PARAPHRASING.