Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Tealgrove]

Well Well Well…

Seems like something is finally happening.

I wondered if Nancy ever came home. That camera they removed may have finally put some pieces together.

Oh boy.

MOO

 

[birdbox]

This crime feels very third world-ish or mobster-ish. But, not very American-ish.

 

[Strangeworld]

I don't know much about the damage to AG's car, is there a photo of it? Is it the sort of damage that looks like a vehicular accident or lower damage that might come from say off-terrain driving?

 

[MassGuy]

If there was any funny business with Nancy's phone or watch, law enforcement would know that almost right away. And if that happened, it would implicate the people whose house Is being searched right now.

Which means no ransom response videos.

 

[Moonsie]

Could she have been harmed at AG’s house, and then never made it home? Meaning the scene at NG’s home was staged? This is all so sad. I hope AG had no involvement.

This is 100% what I have thought from the jump.

moo.

 

[Heaven Leigh]

I think it's very possible one person did the deed while another handled the distraction for that person.

She was bleeding before she was taken away. I would think the perp would have her blood in a vehicle.

 

[ttjo]

Is it possible the Apple Watch was removed elsewhere and taken to the house?

And then you’d need to find another explanation for the blood the front door. If she never returned home

 

[TheDinks]

That blood could have been transferred there by someone. Not difficult at all to do, she wouldn't have needed to be present for her blood to be there

In the very recent trial of Brendan Banfield for murdering his wife Christine, blood expert was questioned at length regarding how blood can be moved and deposited to edit crime scene.

Just saying, again, am not stating it's my opinion this occurred.

 

[HmmMysterious]

You know what, I feel like the answer to all this will be inside Annie Guthrie's house.

 

[Vegasgrl]

Wasn't it the phone that disconnected from the pacemaker app rather than the watch? The watch was mentioned because a) it was one of the items found at the house by LE and b) the location of it was relevant to the ransom notes in some way?

Can apps like this be connected to the same account on more than one device at a time, I wonder? As in, can you have the app on say two iphones, both apps registered and connected to the same pacemaker?

Maybe both. But the point is, if she never made it home, the home was staged and she didn't move away from the phone and/or watch. They moved away from her and broke the connection with her pacemaker.

 

[Strangeworld]

I hope Savannah, her brother and Nancy's loved ones have some wonderful caring people wrapping their arms around them right now

 

[cspotrun]

they took the watch off her and took it to her house.

If this, it’d also likely be that phone was placed on her home as well, right? But then what about pacemaker disconnecting later? Logistics are confusing. Unless phone was returned after watch, but LE would have figured that out ASAP.

 

[halo-love]

Could she have been harmed at AG’s house, and then never made it home? Meaning the scene at NG’s home was staged? This is all so sad. I hope AG had no involvement.

I believe there was a signal from her pacemaker at home around 2 a.m., so she was home and alive, if timeline was accurate.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Yes and using Luminol and similar products is done to look for evidence as opposed to ruling out.

I just don't think using such substances are being used to 'rule out' - spraying it everywhere just to rule out there are no bodily fluids present! Hence my response about timing was addressing the 'ruling out' post.

Not in my experience, though your experience may vary. If there is something that looks like it COULD be dna or blood, it will be checked. The course of checking rules people/places/thing in or out. I was not saying they went over, saw nothing that remotely looked suspicious, then decided to spray everything all over.

In my own garage, I have several blood stains, all mine. If someone were searching for my mother, they might check those and it would be ruled out that they had anything to do with my mother.

 

[birdbox]

Tomato

 

[tbgo]

Dunno about prints but you can definitely get touch DNA

Touch DNA is always controversial due to its high rate of false positives, but it would certainly be a start. There are a lot of rocks in that area too. Aren’t there stones in the driveway? Hopefully, the gas station surveillance footage provides a lead.

 

[InspectGadget]

Is it possible the Apple Watch was removed elsewhere and taken to the house?

I have one and it is clear when I take it off. And also would say where I did so. Electronics that monitor so much are hard to trick folks with. Jmo

 

[BigCityAccountant]

YES!!! THIS! I don't think Nancy ever made it home.

or she was moved. Did something happen at AG's house and they brought her home with the intent of making it look like a staged burglary? Was the blood on the porch from her NOT leaving but coming back home?

 

[MCB1151]

Then there is the issue of the blood outside - although it's not impossible that it got there at some other occasion. Does anyone know whether it's possible to determine how long a blood spatter has been somewhere?

The technology DOES exist but I think, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, I think it's more in terms of aging it weeks/months/years on surfaces, not really days/hours. I mean, FRESH is fresh. Coagulation helps in the immediate. But potentially 18 hours head start, from 6pm to noon the next day? I don't think they can age that except to possibly say it's been there much longer than 18 hours.

 

[DizzyB]

I’m too confused. And tired. All of these late day/night visits to the houses, I’m wondering if this will be another one where they just pack up and leave and nobody knows anything more.