Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cady]

Maybe both. But the point is, if she never made it home, the home was staged and she didn't move away from the phone and/or watch. They moved away from her and broke the connection with her pacemaker.

so who opened and closed the garage door

 

[dogmom805]

I think it's very possible one person did the deed while another handled the distraction for that person.

She was bleeding before she was taken away. I would think the perp would have her blood in a vehicle.

AG's vehicle was reportedly towed the next morning.

 

[Beans]

The signal from the pacemaker syncing with her phone and/or watch at 2am just means she was alive at that time. Nothing indicates she was home at that time. The phone and watch that were left behind could have been placed in the home anytime after that, up until family arrived the following day at 11-something in the morning.

Does it though? Does it mean she was alive or does it just mean the pacemaker was working? LE haven't said anything about what they know about actual pacemaker / app readings, just the disconnect point. It would stay connected even if she was deceased. The readings from it would presumably say much more about NG's condition, but they haven't mentioned anything about that.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Media is gathering outside the home of Annie Guthrie. Authorities are inside the house.

Authorities are inside the house.

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[Vegasgrl]

And her pacemaker disconnecting after that.

Like you can visualize this going down by the events, and it just doesn't work if she's not there.

Especially with the pacemaker.

Went to the house twice. First time to fake a drop off. Second time, they removed watch and took the rest of belongings to stage a kidnapping event?

 

[KrisCo16]

If this, it’d also likely be that phone was placed on her home as well, right? But then what about pacemaker disconnecting later? Logistics are confusing. Unless phone was returned after watch, but LE would have figured that out ASAP.

Hate to say this, but she could have been at the house at 2:00am, or rather close enough (in a car?) so that the pacemaker would sync with the watch/phone at her house.

 

[MassGuy]

Not necessarily, in my opinion. The ransom issue could be a separate criminal matter, MOO.

I believe the ransom is a separate matter.

 

[ttjo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020238009015366010

 

[Strangeworld]

Possible. But that's very involved. Many moving parts.

True but if a crime has happened at AG's house, there would be many things happening in a space of a few hours if they were trying to conceal something

 

[cspotrun]

so who opened and closed the garage door

Could have been opened and closed remotely via cell phone. So possibly when all were still at AG’s.

 

[sasha17]

Didn’t Sheriff originally say she was taken from her bed? Or is my memory incorrect?

He did. IMO, he misspoke or used exaggerated language to mean that she vanished at night, a time when she would have typically been in bed. He had no evidence she was actually literally taken from her bed.

 

[MCB1151]

Feeling like I'm watching a Hallmark movie. What for the next twist and turn in about 1/2 hour. WOW just WOW

More Lifetime or Oxygen, less Hallmark. I'm not picturing a lovely ending here.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

If there was any funny business with Nancy's phone or watch, law enforcement would know that almost right away. And if that happened, it would implicate the people whose house Is being searched right now.

Which means no ransom response videos.

Plus, don't both the phone and the watch likely have functioning GPS? So if they were syncing with her pacemaker but at a location other than her home, wouldn't the devices' location services make that known? MOO

 

[keek]

Didn’t Sheriff originally say she was taken from her bed? Or is my memory incorrect?

That's how it appeared with the info he had at the time, was told she was brought home at about 10 ish I think by her daughter/son law whose house she had dinner at. He had to have seen the bed slept in, and other things that showed of course, she was missing and the time her pacemaker was not connected to her watch I guess, was about 2 ish. So to anyone, it appeared of course she was abducted from 'her bed'. IMO

 

[LRinCA]

I just read this:

Yes, pacemakers may continue sending electrical signals even after death, as they are not designed to recognize when a person has passed.

https://www.myrhythmdevice.org/living-with-a-cardiac-device/end-of-life/

 

[Snoopster]

So how do pacemakers work? If someone was smashed in the head or poisoned, when would the pacemaker stop working?

(I have no clue.)

ETA: I didn't see @LRinCA 's post as we were posting at the same time. Thanks for that!

 

[AFTF]

Something I keep coming back to is how unusual it is that whoever is behind this has not been traced yet, especially given the amount of digital activity reportedly involved.

What makes it interesting is that the same privacy tools often discussed in cases like this are not exclusive to criminals. Journalists operating in dangerous environments regularly use encrypted communication, anonymity networks, and secure operating systems to protect themselves and their sources in life-or-death situations. Those tools are designed to reduce traceability and protect identity, not just for wrongdoing, but for legitimate safety and confidentiality.

However, even with strong privacy tools, perfect anonymity does not really exist. In most real investigations, people are eventually identified not because the technology “fails,” but because small correlations appear over time. Behavioral patterns, timing, metadata, or a single verified link between identity and activity can collapse the anonymity layer.

So the real question is not just what tools are being used, but whether investigators have found the one small connection that ties a real person to the critical timeline. In many cases, once that happens, everything else starts to align.

Just an observation for discussion.

 

[ttjo]

I don't know much about the damage to AG's car, is there a photo of it? Is it the sort of damage that looks like a vehicular accident or lower damage that might come from say off-terrain driving?

From Fox News link above in my post before this one. but I forgot to reply to you so adding that now so you will see it.

 

[Interested Torontonian]

Didn’t Sheriff originally say she was taken from her bed? Or is my memory incorrect?

I think the sheriff did say that - but i wasn't clear if that was factual/evidenced-based information or it was more colloquial...in the middle of the night the elderly lady was "taken from her bed" meaning "kidnapped from her home".

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020354818787930416