AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cebavl]

If there was any funny business with Nancy's phone or watch, law enforcement would know that almost right away. And if that happened, it would implicate the people whose house Is being searched right now.

Which means no ransom response videos.

Do you think law enforcement is telling the family what’s going on? This is just so crazy. I literally keep going back and forth 50/50 on who is responsible for this. Surely the SIL isn’t also connected to the ransom? I’m new here, but read early on you always have the answers…

 

[missy1974]

If there was any funny business with Nancy's phone or watch, law enforcement would know that almost right away. And if that happened, it would implicate the people whose house Is being searched right now.

Which means no ransom response videos.

yeah, I agree. I'm not sure how long it takes to get cell phone/router information, but surely they have looked at that already? Even TC's and AG's, no way it would take this long, right? lol

 

[watson1]

If there was any funny business with Nancy's phone or watch, law enforcement would know that almost right away. And if that happened, it would implicate the people whose house Is being searched right now.

Which means no ransom response videos.

Not necessarily, in my opinion. The ransom issue could be a separate criminal matter, MOO.

 

[Vegasgrl]

If this, it’d also likely be that phone was placed on her home as well, right? But then what about pacemaker disconnecting later? Logistics are confusing. Unless phone was returned after watch, but LE would have figured that out ASAP.

Could have been staged later.

 

[Interested Torontonian]

Excuse me if this has been answered, but do we know that it actually synched at her house? Could it have synched somewhere else?

It could have synced elsewhere - but from the timeline the final syncing happened after the cameras picked up someone in the house.

Which to me would say she was in the house when in synced. But someone upthread responded to my previous post saying this wasn't necessarily the case.

 

[clearskies1]

If she didn't make it home, a quick drive there, raise and lower the garage door to suggest she was dropped off home.

Later returning to the house to stage crime scene

Possible. But that's very involved. Many moving parts.

 

[MommaV]

YES!!! THIS! I don't think Nancy ever made it home.

Didn’t Sheriff originally say she was taken from her bed? Or is my memory incorrect?

 

[Strangeworld]

Sorry, I haven't been able to read every post, is it correct that a pacemaker can continue to send a signal even if someone has passed away? My google search says yes it can, but just checking as I know there are some on here who had alot of knowledge in this area

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Feds have those too, which is why I'm curious.

If it is the sheriff's office, then it explains the whole basketball thing earlier. He knew this would be occurring well after that.

Exactly. I'm convinced LE has got a lot of this figured out and they are consciously communicating through their actions.

 

[cady]

Maybe both. But the point is, if she never made it home, the home was staged and she didn't move away from the phone and/or watch. They moved away from her and broke the connection with her pacemaker.

so who opened and closed the garage door

 

[dogmom805]

I think it's very possible one person did the deed while another handled the distraction for that person.

She was bleeding before she was taken away. I would think the perp would have her blood in a vehicle.

AG's vehicle was reportedly towed the next morning.

 

[Beans]

The signal from the pacemaker syncing with her phone and/or watch at 2am just means she was alive at that time. Nothing indicates she was home at that time. The phone and watch that were left behind could have been placed in the home anytime after that, up until family arrived the following day at 11-something in the morning.

Does it though? Does it mean she was alive or does it just mean the pacemaker was working? LE haven't said anything about what they know about actual pacemaker / app readings, just the disconnect point. It would stay connected even if she was deceased. The readings from it would presumably say much more about NG's condition, but they haven't mentioned anything about that.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Media is gathering outside the home of Annie Guthrie. Authorities are inside the house.

Authorities are inside the house.

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[Vegasgrl]

And her pacemaker disconnecting after that.

Like you can visualize this going down by the events, and it just doesn't work if she's not there.

Especially with the pacemaker.

Went to the house twice. First time to fake a drop off. Second time, they removed watch and took the rest of belongings to stage a kidnapping event?

 

[KrisCo16]

If this, it’d also likely be that phone was placed on her home as well, right? But then what about pacemaker disconnecting later? Logistics are confusing. Unless phone was returned after watch, but LE would have figured that out ASAP.

Hate to say this, but she could have been at the house at 2:00am, or rather close enough (in a car?) so that the pacemaker would sync with the watch/phone at her house.

 

[MassGuy]

Not necessarily, in my opinion. The ransom issue could be a separate criminal matter, MOO.

I believe the ransom is a separate matter.

 

[ttjo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020238009015366010

 

[Strangeworld]

Possible. But that's very involved. Many moving parts.

True but if a crime has happened at AG's house, there would be many things happening in a space of a few hours if they were trying to conceal something

 

[cspotrun]

so who opened and closed the garage door

Could have been opened and closed remotely via cell phone. So possibly when all were still at AG’s.

 

[sasha17]

Didn’t Sheriff originally say she was taken from her bed? Or is my memory incorrect?

He did. IMO, he misspoke or used exaggerated language to mean that she vanished at night, a time when she would have typically been in bed. He had no evidence she was actually literally taken from her bed.