AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nodamselindistress]

I agree. We can't tell from the timeline provided that NG ever made it back home.

But, I can't piece together the blood on the front stoop with the Uber ride.

jmopinion

You don't believe the pacemaker communicating with the iphone/watch is evidence she made it back home?

I suppose that situation could be manipulated but find that unlikely as it would most likely involve extra steps in the process.

 

[Inthedetails]

I may have missed something but it just seems out of place to me if it was old. The house seems to be kept to a high standard and from what has been said there were workers often there. Wouldn't it have been noticed earlier if it was old? But again I may have missed something here. Jmo

I'm 100% confident blood experts can tell if the blood was fresh, old, or somewhere in between.

 

[LAborn]

Buy WHY has it never been spoken about either way I wonder? It really bugs me that it hasn't. I dunno why.

Maybe she doesn't always use it? Are you talking about a photo with SG and her where she has it?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

At this point is anyone not convinced it’s the BIL? The only lingering question to me is how much Annie actually knew or was involved.

I'm not convinced. I can't figure a motive where he'd remove the body. Why not just wait for her to pass if you're looking for $. It'd take years for her to be declared dead. And if he's the ransomer, how's he gonna explain his cash infusion?

 

[Curiousraccoon]

Regarding the door key: there are key boxes that can be opened with a code, now. We used to leave a key in a fake rock in the shrubbery near the door. Now we have a key box.



I don’t think it’s routine, either.

Since we are bound by the rule to stick to MSM sources, I will just say: there are former MSM journalists who are freelance and are doing the legwork and research that the MSM won’t do. They are requesting documents normally available to the press and piblic but finding them sealed.

There are many aspects to this case that are… unusual.

Are you able to name any such freelance journalist just say as an example

 

[aTexasDarling]

I’ll be blunt this morning. In my opinion, NG demise originated from AG’s home. The what and the how, I don’t know. Investigators returning to her home again last night documenting, mapping, and collecting evidence was the final event that moved me in that direction. IMO

You opened my eyes.

 

[birdbox]

There is no way they entered AG's house last night without a warrant, imo.

jmo

Yeah, you are correct im sure. I was more thinking of the previous times they were there filming and updating if they noticed anything that made them pause.

 

[Inthedetails]

You don't believe the pacemaker communicating with the iphone/watch is evidence she made it back home?

I suppose that situation could be manipulated but find that unlikely as it would most likely involve extra steps in the process.

I don't know. I'm baffled by the timeline, but it is possible the phone and the body were together until they weren't. Someone can carry a phone back to the house in the middle of the night and place it somewhere distinctive that the ransom-note writer knew about.

jmo

 

[LAborn]

At this point is anyone not convinced it’s the BIL? The only lingering question to me is how much Annie actually knew or was involved.

I'm definitely not convinced. I don't think they had anything to do with it. It's too far fetched imo.

 

[girlhasnoname]

As Brian says... it's strange for 3 deputies to be at TC & AG's house, 7 days along, late at night for approx 3 hours taking photos in various locations throughout the house and garage.

...this has to be leading in a certain direction, surely ??

Oh and Brian - get some SLEEP

DBM - Completely lost my mind.

I find it hard to believe it was any family member.. This case makes my head hurt.

Still holding out hope that Nancy is found alive and reunited with her loved ones.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

And if he's the ransomer, how's he gonna explain his cash infusion?

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That's what I keep coming back to, too. How would he explain having money? Maybe he intends to disappear, if he's involved? IDK

jmo

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I'm 100% confident blood experts can tell if the blood was fresh, old, or somewhere in between.

Of course but has anything been said about this? And again I just can't work out if it was old how that would look in terms of the whole situation. Nancy got an Uber that night so she was definitely alive then. Maybe I'm just missing the point, I apologise. Jmo.

 

[LAborn]

I'm not convinced. I can't figure a motive where he'd remove the body. Why not just wait for her to pass if you're looking for $. It'd take years for her to be declared dead. And if he's the ransomer, how's he gonna explain his cash infusion?

^^^THIS^^^

 

[LivvyL]

I'm definitely not convinced. I don't think they had anything to do with it. It's too far fetched imo.

Statistics say that someone close, like a family member is most likely involved. Why do you think it’s far fetched?

 

[mikeshanty]

ITA, I find it unusual the FBI would go in 'camera's ablazing' knowing that the media was camped out in front of the home. I believe it is possible to have been a staged event to throw off someone(s). I remember seeing this happen in one other case - The Kelsey Berreth/Patrick Frazee case and they were much, much more discreet.

If this was an actual CS investigation at AC's home, does anyone know if they all returned to AC's there after dinner? If they did and hung out a bit, maybe something did happen there (an unplanned argument or disagreement) and Nancy was driven home. Garage door opens close to 11 pm.

<Crazyland Scenario Speculation>

Nancy wouldn't have to have been alive at the time she was dropped off, she could have just been placed in the home and then someone(s) returned and staged the scene and dreamed up this crazy kidnapping for ransom scenario. Garage door wouldn't show opening again if someone had keys and entered and exited the front door.

I find it hard to believe it was any family member.. This case makes my head hurt.

Still holding out hope that Nancy is found alive and reunited with her loved ones.

JMO

As awful as this sounds, I don't think NG is alive. The two scenarios are both extremely grim. If she has been kidnapped without her medication, it has now been nearly one week. She is frail, vulnerable, and with medical conditions requiring medication. In the other scenario where something may or may not have happened at AG's house or inside NG's house by someone she knew, there is no way she is alive and those who did it concealed the body.

 

[missy1974]

I was watching Brian Entin's youtube last night... something I didn't know... The family didn't find the blood by the front door, Brian thinks it was the Sheriff deputies that noticed it.

It should be cued up at the right time, but it's around the 24 minute mark.

 

[nodamselindistress]

I don't know. I'm baffled by the timeline, but it is possible the phone and the body were together until they weren't. Someone can carry a phone back to the house in the middle of the night and place it somewhere distinctive that the ransom-note writer knew about.

jmo

Yes, I had considered that possibility too. Just seems risky.

 

[NoeticSoul]

Maybe she doesn't always use it? Are you talking about a photo with SG and her where she has it?

From what I've read so far NG pretty much depended upon the cane or a walker for mobility, is why it concerns me whether it was found in her home, or it went with her..

 

[clearskies1]

ITA, I find it unusual the FBI would go in 'camera's ablazing' knowing that the media was camped out in front of the home. I believe it is possible to have been a staged event to throw off someone(s). I remember seeing this happen in one other case - The Kelsey Berreth/Patrick Frazee case and they were much, much more discreet.

If this was an actual CS investigation at AC's home, does anyone know if they all returned to AC's there after dinner? If they did and hung out a bit, maybe something did happen there (an unplanned argument or disagreement) and Nancy was driven home. Garage door opens close to 11 pm.

<Crazyland Scenario Speculation>

Nancy wouldn't have to have been alive at the time she was dropped off, she could have just been placed in the home and then someone(s) returned and staged the scene and dreamed up this crazy kidnapping for ransom scenario. Garage door wouldn't show opening again if someone had keys and entered and exited the front door.

I find it hard to believe it was any family member.. This case makes my head hurt.

Still holding out hope that Nancy is found alive and reunited with her loved ones.

JMO

I have seen the media covering LE searches a lot. The ubiquitous crime scene investigator coming out carrying brown evidence bags.

 

[osu]

I saw that photo. TC wasnt in it....unless I missed something or saw a different photo? Neither was Cameron's wife ( if he has one). Only spouse i saw was Savannah's hubby. Odd...

The 2025 Christmas photo that I saw posted up thread showed SG and her husband, their two children, AG, TC and their child, NG and the black poodle.


ETA: Link to family photo.

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/198024/heartbreaking-last-photo-shows-savannah-guthrie-s-mother-missing-from-tucson-home