AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[birdbox]

Do they know if she had Google location service enabled or Life360 some type of tracking app??

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

Wow. I can't imagine how stressful this must be for the family. On top of all the LE / FBI discussions they must be having, also having to work out how to release those kinds of funds from possibly illiquid assets, work with specialists to work out how to wire it.

I'm not forgetting 2 teens were arrested for home invasion demanding $66 million or $60 million in bitcoin. Could it be the same perps? From what I read the names were "red" and "8". Could it be some teens have Nancy and these other 2 are calling the shots? Could it be a typo in the ransom note and it was supposed to read either $66 million or $60 million?

The $6 million seems too conincidential to me. Why not $5 million or $10 million? Why that amount?

 

[Cassie P]

They are making public videos because it's the only way they can communicate with the kidnappers. The family (TC) is NOT, I repeat IS NOT involved, in the kidnapping IMO. Expand your horizons..Someone didnt want SG, perhaps, at the Olympics...the timing is suspect. If they just wanted to rob the mother, that could have been accomplished easily. This is about SG in some twisted form. Not that i think she is involved with the perps, but someone wanted to grab her attention. JMO. Second guess is a grudge something or other against the brother, Cameron and the military. Who's with me? MOO

1. As I said elsewhere, if the family is going to pay the ransom, why not just pay the money instead of continuing to talk about it?
2. I am open to the theories you mention. I like thinking outside the box and being open to all ideas. Yes I agree, why SG? This is an angle to think about. Or could it be a stranger or family murder and some skilled foreign actors decided to make it their payday?

 

[rescuemom]

I was watching Brian Entin's youtube last night... something I didn't know... The family didn't find the blood by the front door, Brian thinks it was the Sheriff deputies that noticed it.

It should be cued up at the right time, but it's around the 24 minute mark.

Looking at this still pic right here of the video, SG looks p***ed and AG looks guilty. Brother seems emotionless for some reason

 

[CandyKiss]

Thank you. Did the picture appear to be old or new blood?

You’re welcome.

The blood appeared to be new. Also, under ‘DNA Analysis’ the extraction is less complicated than ‘old blood.’

I should have posted this as well:

Old Blood (Days to Years)

• Appearance: Dark reddish-brown to blackish; eventually turns grey.
• Texture: Dried, brittle, powdery, or flaky.
• Analysis: DNA can still be extracted, but degradation increases over time. Color changes due to oxidation (hemoglobin breakdown) help estimate age.
• Detection: Often requires forensic light sources or chemical enhancers like Luminol/Fluorescein to detect latent (cleaned) stains.

On WS last night; questions were asked about the blood pattern itself ... just droplets of blood and one small area of spray but none of the droplets were 'disturbed' .. as if they were 'staged'

 

[tkcrockett]

can we talk about the photos taken at AG garage for a minute? I have seen the "guess" that they are using luminol and taking pictures of the reaction. They were in there quite a while before going into the house. Here's my question...if they sprayed luminol in the garage and nothing reacted, then no need to take pictures, right? So by default, something was found in the garage...just no way of knowing who/what/how old. Am I making a bad conclusion or on the right track? If I assume they had enough info for a warrant then the possibility of "something" being there goes way up. Right?

 

[serenebee23]

Authorities did not impound ag's car. They impounded NG's car.

Around 26:20, he says "the car..." and its referring to AG's car because AB reported earlier that it had been towed and the sheriff is seemingly responding to her reporting. Also this was well before NG's car had been towed.

 

[mikeshanty]

Looking at this still pic right here of the video, SG looks p***ed and AG looks guilty. Brother seems emotionless for some reason

I don't love speculating on how people behave in grief. People often act very strange indeed.

HOWEVER - I also noticed SG's hand contact with her brother is quite different to the contact with AG. She places her hand in her brother's hand and strokes his hand during the video. Her hand is then almost like a claw over AG's's, and there is no movement or stroking at all (unlike the earlier video where there was more touch and movement between the two).

 

[rescuemom]

I'm still on my theory. Nancy had dinner with Annie and her husband. SIL took her home. Asked for money. She said no. He went home. Upset and it just festered with him WHY she won't give money to them. He went by himself in middle of night. Coerced her out of bed with story about family emergency. He left back door wide open so it would like she wandered off. Small scuffle at front door as she kept insisting she needed to put on real clothes and he got impatient with her and she got hurt, therefor small blood, but not a lot. He got her in his car. She was easy to overpower then and bag over her head. A lot less messy. Took her to dessert and put her under a tree or bush like she "stumbled" there. He wants her to be found, but not too quickly. Enough that her body is exposed to elements. His whole theory was she just wandered away confused in the middle of night. Would be out of the norm for her, but as she is 84, people will think that something just happened to her. Her body would be found. Assume that she died of exposure or health deteriorated. Inheritance. What he didn't count on was the media and the unsubstantiated reports of ransom that he had nothing to do with. Media quickly said she couldn't walk far, and jumped on the sensational story of kidnapping, then other people faked ransom notes. Her blood could be in passenger seat. Luminol last night.

If that's the case, then not enough searching was done on the very first day!! This whole LE presence leaves alot to be desired

 

[samaor]

Yeah every family and every home is different. I'm gonna guess they're garage door people.

Yes, sounds like they are.

 

[EJB123456]

Looks like I am in the minority here. We live in an area with extremely cold winters and extremely hot summers so we try to keep our garage closed whenever possible. Not to mention the wear and tear on the garage door opener from opening & closing many times per day. Thanks all!

I don’t disagree with the wear and tear. I do get annoyed when my own family members open my old and on its last leg garage door TO GO GET THE MAIL and then close it upon returning inside. Use the front door people! But alas, round about these ‘burbs, most people are going to use garage door as main entry into a home.

 

[soap mama]

Dinner and games? Sounds wholesome.Did anyone outside of the family witness this to confirm?
I keep considering the uber ride.
Did NG hire the uber because her car had been borrowed and was in AG garage?
Was there an argument in the garage ?
Everything staged after that.

I think it's simply, we can't come get you but can bring you home. Take an Uber here. Probably has happened before.

 

[rescuemom]

From Google: Fresh blood at a crime scene appears bright red, wet, and glossy, whereas old blood turns dark reddish-brown, dry, and eventually grey, with texture changing from liquid to brittle flakes. Forensic analysts distinguish them to estimate the time of death (time since deposition), as blood oxidation (hemoglobin degradation) acts as a "crime clock"

Fresh Blood (Minutes to Days)

• Appearance: Bright red, wet, and glossy.
• Texture: Liquid, sticky, or forming soft, pliable clots.
• Analysis: Easy to identify; DNA extraction is straightforward. Often indicates recent, active events.
• Detection: Can be identified with visual inspection or simple chemical tests.

If I have an 84 yr old mother living 10 min away who I am somewhat of a caregiver and am in and out of her house regularly I would notice old blood on the brick front stoop.

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

I'm not buying the AG angle. Seems to me the feds are leading the investigation here and the sherriff is not in the loop anymore and his office is doing their own thing. So in essence, two seperate investigations going on here. IMHO, one is barking up the wrong tree and the other is silent.

 

[MassGuy]

For those wondering about where Savannah and her siblings were during the search last night:

“Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.”

Day 8: The latest on the Investigation into the Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

TUCSON (KVOA) - As the search for Nancy Guthrie enters its second week, law enforcement activity continues around her family's residences. Police were observed at the home of Annie Guthrie,

www.kvoa.com

 

[Sadi]

CASE UPDATE — N.G.

As of now, this case has entered a critical phase. While authorities still state no suspect or official person of interest has been publicly identified, multiple investigative actions suggest movement behind the scenes.

Here is the most complete picture based on publicly reported information:

TIMELINE ANCHOR
Approximately seven days have passed since the overnight window when N.G.’s pacemaker reportedly lost synchronization with her Apple-linked devices. This same window is believed by investigators to be when the incident occurred.

OFFICIAL POSITION
Pima County authorities continue to say:
• No suspects ruled out
• No official person of interest named
• Investigation remains active and evolving

GAS STATION LEAD
Investigators were seen seeking surveillance footage from a nearby gas station. A clerk stated law enforcement asked about video involving an unidentified male. No description has been released, and it is not confirmed whether this individual is a suspect or part of routine evidence gathering.

VEHICLE OF INTEREST
Separately, investigators obtained surveillance footage from a Circle K connected to a reported “vehicle of interest.” It remains unknown whether this vehicle is connected to the unidentified male or represents a separate lead.

FAMILY HOME INVESTIGATION
Authorities spent extended time inside the home of A.G. and T.C., the last confirmed location where N.G. was present before returning to her own residence approximately 4.3 miles away.

Video and witness observations reported:
• Investigators entering with equipment
• Camera flashes visible from inside
• Metallic/clanking sounds consistent with evidence processing
• Items removed from the home

No official explanation has been given regarding what was collected or how this activity relates to the broader investigation.

MAP / SEARCH ACTIVITY
Images circulating show investigators reviewing a map. Commentary from a legal analyst suggested such materials are sometimes associated with search planning, though authorities have not confirmed the purpose.

COMMUNICATIONS / RANSOM
The family publicly stated they received a message and are willing to meet ransom demands in hopes of securing N.G.’s safe return. Authorities have previously confirmed impostor/fake ransom activity occurred in the case environment, meaning not all communications are verified.

CURRENT STATUS
N.G. remains missing.
No suspect publicly identified.
Multiple investigative threads appear active simultaneously.

WHAT THIS MAY INDICATE (GENERAL, NON-SPECULATIVE)
In major investigations, simultaneous evidence collection at multiple locations, surveillance review, and timeline reconstruction often occur when investigators are:
• Verifying movement and sequence
• Narrowing potential leads
• Correlating physical and digital evidence
• Testing emerging theories

However, no official confirmation has been given tying these activities to a specific suspect.

The case remains active, fluid, and unresolved. Verified information from authorities will be critical in determining the next direction.

END UPDATE

Thank you for sharing this, it’s very helpful!

 

[EJB123456]

I'm not buying the AG angle. Seems to me the feds are leading the investigation here and the sherriff is not in the loop anymore and his office is doing their own thing. So in essence, two seperate investigations going on here. IMHO, one is barking up the wrong tree and the other is silent.

I hope you are right ! Which will be more egg for Pima County after that basketball debacle and everything else.

 

[mikeshanty]

For those wondering about where Savannah and her siblings were during the search last night:

“Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, who had been staying at their older sister's home several miles away, left the location as investigators conducted their search.”

Day 8: The latest on the Investigation into the Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

TUCSON (KVOA) - As the search for Nancy Guthrie enters its second week, law enforcement activity continues around her family's residences. Police were observed at the home of Annie Guthrie,

www.kvoa.com

I assume either a hotel or distant relative's home. I remember when JH's family were murdered, DJT put JH up in a hotel (T-Tower).

 

[captdj]

NO. This is my bugaboo and I’m sorry I keep getting hung up on it because I think it’s absolutely pivotal. JMO.

The church issued a statement that did not clarify. The person/persons who allegedly made the call are not named or even interviewed by the press. Frankly, it’s my opinion that this simple fact is being obfuscated purposely. Does it harm the case to clarify whether NG attended services in person?? This is like the question of NG’s cane: where was it?

(N.b., The Sheriff omitted this alleged call from the most recent timeline. Whether or not it was a clerical omission or intentional is not known. Some media outlets continue to include it in subsequent articles about the timeline/summary, some omit it as well.)

I’ll die on this hill: There’s something hinky about this particular aspect of the case. I think the call was quietly debunked. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s my current opinion.

Without that churchgoer call ..we may still not know she was kidnapped

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Ok. Explain why the FBI was at Annie’s house last night taking pictures and seizing evidence?

Good question. But it was the sheriff's department, not the FBI.