AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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right... they processed AG/TC's car and as far as we know it was returned. Not even sure how and when that even happened, because apparently no media caught it, which is really weird to me, but it was earlier in the week. They caught FBI going in with a celebrite briefcase but not the car being towed? weird.
ALLEGEDLY Annie’s car was seized at night. There’s a photo on X of the alleged car on a transporter (or whatever you call them). This was not reported by a reliable MSM so I don’t know if it’s truly her car. JMO it’s something I saw but did not bring here because the source is a random person with no press credentials.

What makes you say that the car has been returned? I’m not challenging you, just wondering.
 
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DBM
 
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If as suggested earlier in the thread LE are restarting the investigation from scratch again then it wouldn't necessarily be strange for them to reinvestigate the last people she was known to be with I

If as suggested earlier in the thread LE are restarting the investigation from scratch again then it wouldn't necessarily be strange for them to reinvestigate the last people she was known to be with IMO.
You'd think it would be interviews and not luminol.
 
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Generally, LE can't talk to a minor without a parent's permission and presence; and/or with a court appointed guardian/lawyer present. So it's unlikely LE has had access to a minor at this point. If I were LE, I'd want to see if the parents were calling lawyers; and when they started to do so. Just my opinions.
This is actually (shockingly) not true. Law enforcement can question a minor whenever they want to. Laws vary by state but anyone who has minor children should always tell them not to talk to LE without their parent and a lawyer present.
 
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i just assumed they meant they would celebrate her return! would that be an odd thing to say? (i’m not a native english speaker)
 
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I don't think she's thinking as a lawyer right now. She is utterly traumatized and in her emotions, understandably. This is too close to home for her to be thinking rationally and logically right now.
I think the combination of SG’s and CG’s background will assist one another when emotions override logic; allow the emotions but ‘let’s return to logical thinking.’ JMO but its very hard to change the core of who you are even when faced with monumental stress.
 
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Wonder if the Uber who picked her up noticed if she came out of front door or garage and if she had any bandages such as cut finger, bandaged hand, etc.
 
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Technical questions here about pacemakers and trackers (phone/watch), if anyone knows the answers.

What specific type of transmission mechanisn does a pacemaker use to send info to a watch or phone? Perhaps microwave? (I believe Bluetooth uses microwave) or maybe radio signals?

and

How does the pacemaker know it is connecting to the correct tracker? In other words, if you go into the retirement home tv room and there are four elders with pacemakers and each has their phone or watch, how does the technology make sure each pacemaker only reports to the proper tracker? Serial number or similar when creating the account? Or is there actually a chance they could interfere with each other?

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me understand how this works.
I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.
 
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there is no restaurant involved that evening.
My point remains. Uber to wherever, they pick her up to go wherever, either gives them the opportunity to take her home.
 
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wonder if any high school students are involved in this bizarre case? I have been saying this is so Jon Benet the whole time, but now I'm getting shades of Susan Smith...or what's that case where a school teacher gets a student to whack her husband?

forgive me if I am wrong which I often am....

well I'm sure we will be talking about this case forever. mOO
 
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i just assumed they meant they would celebrate her return! would that be an odd thing to say? (i’m not a native english speaker)
It SOUNDS and reads that way yes, but their faces are so sorrowful and they may of been referring to a 'celebration of life' as some churches do or families. Celebrate the deceased person's life as closure. IMO
 
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Whoever committed the crime, choose the most complicated convoluted and cruel way to try and make money. I don’t think this has gone to plan.
 
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Revisiting the Instagram video - "This is the only way we will have peace". I sadly believe NG has passed. If there had been proof of life, I do not believe someone would use this phraseology. It would lean more towards "we need her back" or a message directed at NG. Devastating.
 

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