AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[mikeshanty]

I'm not in the US so realise it could be different - BUT - if there was no case for AG/TC being suspects, would LE officially state that they were helping enquiries but NOT suspects? I'm sure there have been cases in the UK where police have said, stop speculating, these aren't POI. OR, family have issues statements saying, please respect our privacy and don't speculate etc.

The police do that commonly in the UK, yes. In this case, the sheriff did make some comments at the last press conference to the effect of "please be mindful of what you post online" and, in the specific context of rumors about SIL, he said something specific about "some of these people may be victims too".

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.

Great information.

I don’t use an Apple Watch, but I know some things it tracks in the health app. Would it show when removed from her or when heartbeat stopped, if it did?

 

[Curiousobserver]

@MassGuy
Thanks for posting this.
In your opinion do you think this activity indicates LE viewing AG and husband as probably/possibly involved?

The problem here is that the whole family is hunkered down there, the brother and their famous sister. They obviously do not think they are murderers.

While I of course don't know which way this will turn out... and all of this is just MHO...

There are some major problems with the SIL theory. It would be a complicated crime, drop off and then return un-noticed by your wife, leave no trace for LE to find. Every part of their story is easily checked. If they lied about anything so far, LE would be questioning them at the station, and their family would not be holding hands in those videos. They would need to be in on this together. They don't seem to have the technical background to evade the FBI in a bitcoin for body scheme. They might or would be expected to know the cameras have no subscription, so why destroy them. They cannot be sending ransom notes from that house.

Alternate explanations: FBI has set up communications tracking equipment in the home in case the kidnappers contacts them there. That is a lot of the cases we see going in and out. They are there as adjunct security for SG. They took pictures of the car to make sure it isn't any of the cars they are seeing on video. Some of the items from Nancy's home were removed and are now in Annie's home, like her purse, keys, phone and LE is examining them there. There is other communication with the kidnappers we are not privy to. Those bags could be food, or garbage from all the people there...I can go on and on.

 

[SMK777]

Where was that reported I thought that was just speculated on?

Brian Entin of News Nation reported flashes in the garage that indicated it.

 

[stmichael]

I'm not in the US so realise it could be different - BUT - if there was no case for AG/TC being suspects, would LE officially state that they were helping enquiries but NOT suspects? I'm sure there have been cases in the UK where police have said, stop speculating, these aren't POI. OR, family have issues statements saying, please respect our privacy and don't speculate etc.

It's an ongoing investigation so LE doesn't def. know who is NOT a suspect. It is up to the dept. how to respond but most investigations are vague about Persons of Interest and will deflect any specificity until the case is concluded. You can not force anyone to not speculate on public figures, there is no thought policing here.

 

[Black eyed pea]

I have a pacemaker with monitoring. It communicates with my app via radio frequency (commonly referred to as Bluetooth nowadays). It does not communicate 24/7. This is where people are getting confused. Every night between midnight and 3 am usually, the app sends an interrogation to my pacemaker, and only my pacemaker not anyone else's, and my pacemaker sends a data pack to the app. If the app receives a data pack with concerning data it is then transmitted to the monitoring company. Then nothing else happens until the next interrogation 24 hours later.

It looks like what happened in this case is the app sent an interrogation at 2:28 am but the pacemaker did not answer. This happens sometimes with mine if my phone is dead or not in range when the interrogation is sent.

The important thing to keep in mind is this is not like an EKG that is collecting and sending data in real time. The pacemaker and app are not talking to each other outside of the routine nightly interrogation. The only thing that should be assumed from the 2:18 am disconnected information is that when the app sent a query to the pacemaker the app could not contact the pacemaker because it was out of range.

Wow! Thank you for sharing this. I've heard LE say that her wallet and phone were left behind at the house.It's been mentioned a lot that she is in pain and needs medication. I wonder if the pain medication was left behind at NG's house as well and pills counted? Could the perp been looking for prescription drugs?

 

[Fargo]

wonder if any high school students are involved in this bizarre case? I have been saying this is so Jon Benet the whole time, but now I'm getting shades of Susan Smith...or what's that case where a school teacher gets a student to whack her husband?

forgive me if I am wrong which I often am....

well I'm sure we will be talking about this case forever. mOO

Pamela Smart.

 

[Starkville]

Regarding the blood and doorbell…for those more knowledgeable about this-is there a reason why there were not evidence markers used or marking the spots? And why there did not appear to be fingerprint dust around the doorbell at NGs home?

I think the Sheriff’s office missed or overlooked it entirely. JMO. Maybe they figured it out later and didn’t when no one was looking.

 

[InVinoVeritas]

The police do that commonly in the UK, yes. In this case, the sheriff did make some comments at the last press conference to the effect of "please be mindful of what you post online" and, in the specific context of rumors about SIL, he said something specific about "some of these people may be victims too".

Thank you - "some" seems quite telling in that sentence!

 

[WillenFan21]

Looks like the Sherrif is just sitting there in the vehicle.

 

[su5ie]

I don't think this is SIL at all ,the ransom notes are going to media outlets all week . How is he getting the space to sent them . Surely the fbi would be monitoring all of the families devices .

I feel sorry for AG , this is her mum that she most likely did the majority of the caring and checking in and now not only does she have to contend with grief but her husband is being fingered for a crime most horrible because AB stated she got it from a source . Could that source have been speculating regardless of their usual reliability

Credibility is only as good as your last hunch being right imo

ETA fbi are going to be at AGs home if that's where Nancy was last known to have been plus if family are there its going to be the main command station

 

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If it is true that an investigator was carrying a map….has someone talked?

 

[VicBlazey]

Looks like the Sherrif is just sitting there in the vehicle.

Strange... Waiting to get out and speak to media at a certain point perhaps?? JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

I believe it was Nancy's car that we have photos of that was taken at night. Friday night.

I *think* the Sheriff said that it was processed and returned (after AB's reports), but I could be wrong. He was all over the place until yesterday and I have watched so many clips of his interviews. I am not sure if I even know where to try to find it. I do find it really odd that that we didn't get a picture of that, but it was earlier in the week before all the media has been camping out 24/7.

Here’s where they took the blue SUV from Nancy’s garage on February 6th.

I will look for any reports about Annie’s vehicle from earlier in the week.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019970669321261076

 

[bestill]

Someone posted a link to the announcer of KGUN saying the ransom is 6mm and due by 5:00pm Monday. I can't find it online. I think he misspoke and shared that number by mistake. JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

If the son’s parents haven’t let him talk to LE yet, IMO there is no way SG would be sitting next to AG in the instagram videos.

Maybe maybe not.
SG may have felt that keeping a united front took precedence ?
imo

 

[Ellis' Mom]

I clicked your link.. the size of the case ... 8.5" x 4.5" x 1.75"

whatever the deputy was carrying was larger then that IMO Doesn't mean it isn't something similar to the kit you linked and larger. My point was, many reports today saying it was "taken" from the home as if there is something nefarious about it. I disagree.

IMO

I thought (?) that there was video of them carrying it in, and then back out?

 

[LarryLujack]

I don't think this is SIL at all ,the ransom notes are going to media outlets all week . How is he getting the space to sent them . Surely the fbi would be monitoring all of the families devices .

I feel sorry for AG , this is her mum that she most likely did the majority of the caring and checking in and now not only does she have to contend with grief but her husband is being fingered for a crime most horrible because AB stated she got it from a source . Could that source have been speculating regardless of their usual reliability

Credibility is only as good as your last hunch bring right imo

There could easily be an accomplice outside of the family.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Picking her up to come to the restaurant with them would also have given them an opportunity to take her home. Taking an Uber there means nothing when it comes to that.

Call me confused, but I thought the dinner was at AG's home.

 

[Walela]

I get the impression that it was never confirmed that the ransom writers had NG.
Nothing specific, just that they had her, won’t answer questions.

First ransom note, they said that it would be their only communication, yet they did send through another note Friday am, still nothing specific, just send money by monday. No proof of life in either note.

I think SG’s words that they would pay, are for the slim chance that family would get the body back.

It would be helpful to have the entire message. Then we would know for sure what, if anything, the abductors included as proof of life or confirmation of possession.

What do we think of when someone says proof of life in a kidnap situation? What do we think of when someone says ransom note? Usually it's things that have come before in kidnappings. This kidnapping seems to be throwing all the preconceived notions out the window of the past and right into kidnappings of the future. No more cut and paste ransom notes (unless you use Adobe Acrobat to digitally create a selective font cut and paste note); no more tied up in a chair with a dated newspaper photos; no more phone call verification of life; no more leaving the money in a trash can at such-and-such location. This will either become a future blueprint and trend or it is a completely out-of-the-box one-time kidnapping.