AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Turkeytrot]

You might if you wanted investigators or the family to think you are not in the US.

Yep, interesting point.

 

[Mica]

@mikeshanty

Nancy Guthrie's Pastor Prays for The Hearts of Those Responsible For Her Abduction

As the search for Nancy Guthrie continues, her church delivered a powerful and emotional message not just for her safety, but for the conscience of those who may be responsible for her abduction.

www.tmz.com

 

[Diddian]

Yes but look what @Springplease found!!!!! Based on video/pics of the hvacs and wall, it doesn’t look like they are on NG’s property!

Yikes. A neighbor's home.

Remembering "Silence of the Lambs" (but memory is vague). I remember Hannibal Lecter advised Jodie Foster's character (Clarice) that a perpetrator wants he frequently sees. And Clarice traveled to a neighborhood where a teen or young adult woman had disappeared some time before the current missing woman and she spoke with a member of that vicim's family and toured the house. And she noticed that that victim had been a seamstress who had patterns and a sewing machine in her room. Then, she noticed the window of that victim's room was overlooked by a window of a neighbor's home. Clarice knocked on that neighbor's door and discovered a man living there in his deceased mother's home and she started asking him questions and began also noticing oddities which eventually led her to the basement where the killer had the current missing woman in a deep hole.

But that is just a story. It could be that a perpetrator is not a neighbor, but a trespasser who uses a neighbor's home and property as he pleases.

ETA: The message expressed by SG in the first video ("Ask her, you'll see) was from SOTL. Is this perpetrator playing sick games?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

 

[emigrate]

Oh, please no. Don't be more missing women. PLEASE GOD! NOOOOO!!

If I was an elderly close neighbor I would be worried of whoever coming back just to make everything more wild and taking another person. I know it is unlikely but I would be out of the neighborhood at a hotel until solved.

 

[steff13]

Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

Or to the potential that the perpetrator is someone with ties outside the United States.

 

[Napoli]

Reported on Fox. At the request of the Guffrie family, a law enforcement officer has been placed at Nancy Guffrie's home.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Until the sheriff’s department has a believable and benign reason for them being at AG’s house late last night, and they share it with the public, I will not believe that they don’t have a suspect.

 

[Starkville]

But according to the info @Fargo gave about pacemakers, we don't know exactly when she was removed from the house. The pacemaker is only "interrogated" once a day....at night. She may have been taken much earlier than 2:28am.

IIRC, the only places reporting that she only attended church virtually were Daily Mail and The Sun. I’m not sure what to make of the church attendance story anymore lol. So much back and forth BUT it does seem that her absence, whether virtual or physical, would have been noticed. And you can see on the church website that you need an account to access the live stream and you can see participants, there’s a chat option, etc.

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

And I wonder why Nancy wasn’t going to church in person. The fellowship and the feeling of togethership (especially during hymns) is something that many people especially enjoy. Did she miss it?

Was she avoiding anyone?

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020615060876337521

https://www.sapctucson.org

 

[tbgo]

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

How long after payment was received that Nancy would be returned. It takes so long to get back to the area. If they said within 5 hours, you can look and see where you would be 5 hours from wherever they said that they would return her.

 

[emigrate]

Reported on Fox. At the request of the Guffrie family, a law enforcement officer has been placed at Nancy Guffrie's home.

Cannot believe they HAD to ask

 

[thefragile7393]

If I was an elderly close neighbor I would be worried of whoever coming back just to make everything more wild and taking another person. I know it is unlikely but I would be out of the neighborhood at a hotel until solved.

The problem is it may not be solved for a while so that can get expensive

 

[ReadySet]

Please correct if wrong:
There is no confirmation that SIL took Nancy home.
We don't know for sure who was at the dinner with Nancy at AG's home.
We don't know for sure how Nancy got into her home when she was taken home.
We don't know for sure how Nancy was taken out of her home.
TIA!

 

[Charlot123]

yes no question she could get that cash fast. People never mention her husband but yes he is wealthy too.

But just because she can doesn't need that she should before she consults people specializing in these situations.

 

[BigCityAccountant1]

I’ve been looking at the drone footage looking for the location of the septic tank on google maps, I think I’ve found it here circled in red, it’s behind the neighbours house.

Unless they do things differently down in AZ, that does not look like a septic tank to me.

 

[Laura Avery]

Quick one
Was the random note received before or after the public found out? I'm not sure it's mentioned, just deadlines.

 

[shonyakay]

That’s an interesting thought, if SG had paid the ransom the first day they got the ransom note, would it have brought Nancy home alive?

Just imagining, on Monday( only one day into case), the Guthrie family and LE likely thought the case might be solved quickly. Maybe LE thought ransom notes are just from bad actors, jumping on in an opportunist way.

Maybe FBI encouraged SG not to pay yet on Monday, even though they said it’s up to the family to decide. Maybe FBI think ransoms encourage other bad actors.

Since there was no way to contact, negotiate with ransom seeker, after the second note (dire),
SG communicated that she will pay by Monday( final deadline).

Agreed, No way of knowing if Nancy would have been returned alive, if paid on the first day, or earlier.

Very sad case.

There were two deadlines in the note - 5:00 p.m. Thursday and 5:00 p.m. Monday.
The perp(s) said there would be no more communication.

The family asked for proof of life. They didn't get it and they didn't meet the first deadline.
We don't know what if any consequence there was for that.

This might have forced the perp(s) to go against their note and communicate again.

The most serious consequence according to Harvey Levin will happen on Monday if the ransom is not paid by then.

I doubt they would kill her before the second deadline.

Poor Nancy.

Sidenote: Assuming the notes are legit.

 

[smileyface516]

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

Nobody. There was no phone call. JMO.

 

[TheDinks]

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

So of all the MANY broadcasts I've watched, TMZ is one I rarely look at BUT... I did see one recently after my YT video queue automatically went to videos of same topic, anyway, I digress.

Whats'isface the owner was speaking about part of note that said "we'll return her within (say 2 hours)" I don't recall exact details. So he displayed a hand drawn diagram he had made of states surrounding Arizona. He was talking about using the time stated in the note to get back to Tucson and pointing to various locations... this was how he determined location was reasonably close.