Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Starkville]

But according to the info @Fargo gave about pacemakers, we don't know exactly when she was removed from the house. The pacemaker is only "interrogated" once a day....at night. She may have been taken much earlier than 2:28am.

IIRC, the only places reporting that she only attended church virtually were Daily Mail and The Sun. I’m not sure what to make of the church attendance story anymore lol. So much back and forth BUT it does seem that her absence, whether virtual or physical, would have been noticed. And you can see on the church website that you need an account to access the live stream and you can see participants, there’s a chat option, etc.

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

And I wonder why Nancy wasn’t going to church in person. The fellowship and the feeling of togethership (especially during hymns) is something that many people especially enjoy. Did she miss it?

Was she avoiding anyone?

 

[osu]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020615060876337521

https://www.sapctucson.org

 

[tbgo]

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

How long after payment was received that Nancy would be returned. It takes so long to get back to the area. If they said within 5 hours, you can look and see where you would be 5 hours from wherever they said that they would return her.

 

[emigrate]

Reported on Fox. At the request of the Guffrie family, a law enforcement officer has been placed at Nancy Guffrie's home.

Cannot believe they HAD to ask

 

[thefragile7393]

If I was an elderly close neighbor I would be worried of whoever coming back just to make everything more wild and taking another person. I know it is unlikely but I would be out of the neighborhood at a hotel until solved.

The problem is it may not be solved for a while so that can get expensive

 

[ReadySet]

Please correct if wrong:
There is no confirmation that SIL took Nancy home.
We don't know for sure who was at the dinner with Nancy at AG's home.
We don't know for sure how Nancy got into her home when she was taken home.
We don't know for sure how Nancy was taken out of her home.
TIA!

 

[Charlot123]

yes no question she could get that cash fast. People never mention her husband but yes he is wealthy too.

But just because she can doesn't need that she should before she consults people specializing in these situations.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I’ve been looking at the drone footage looking for the location of the septic tank on google maps, I think I’ve found it here circled in red, it’s behind the neighbours house.

Unless they do things differently down in AZ, that does not look like a septic tank to me.

 

[Laura Avery]

Quick one
Was the random note received before or after the public found out? I'm not sure it's mentioned, just deadlines.

 

[shonyakay]

That’s an interesting thought, if SG had paid the ransom the first day they got the ransom note, would it have brought Nancy home alive?

Just imagining, on Monday( only one day into case), the Guthrie family and LE likely thought the case might be solved quickly. Maybe LE thought ransom notes are just from bad actors, jumping on in an opportunist way.

Maybe FBI encouraged SG not to pay yet on Monday, even though they said it’s up to the family to decide. Maybe FBI think ransoms encourage other bad actors.

Since there was no way to contact, negotiate with ransom seeker, after the second note (dire),
SG communicated that she will pay by Monday( final deadline).

Agreed, No way of knowing if Nancy would have been returned alive, if paid on the first day, or earlier.

Very sad case.

There were two deadlines in the note - 5:00 p.m. Thursday and 5:00 p.m. Monday.
The perp(s) said there would be no more communication.

The family asked for proof of life. They didn't get it and they didn't meet the first deadline.
We don't know what if any consequence there was for that.

This might have forced the perp(s) to go against their note and communicate again.

The most serious consequence according to Harvey Levin will happen on Monday if the ransom is not paid by then.

I doubt they would kill her before the second deadline.

Poor Nancy.

Sidenote: Assuming the notes are legit.

 

[smileyface516]

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

Nobody. There was no phone call. JMO.

 

[TheDinks]

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

So of all the MANY broadcasts I've watched, TMZ is one I rarely look at BUT... I did see one recently after my YT video queue automatically went to videos of same topic, anyway, I digress.

Whats'isface the owner was speaking about part of note that said "we'll return her within (say 2 hours)" I don't recall exact details. So he displayed a hand drawn diagram he had made of states surrounding Arizona. He was talking about using the time stated in the note to get back to Tucson and pointing to various locations... this was how he determined location was reasonably close.

 

[Napoli]

We don't know about the validity of the ransom and how it is (or isn't) related to the crime at this point. We can assume by SG and family's video yesterday they think there's a chance it's real, but it's all speculation at this point for us outside looking in. JMO.

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

 

[Derdew]

Has it been mentioned that Senator Mark Kelly has come out and said that Savannah called him on her way to airport on Sunday to tell him what was going on and seek his help. To me, it appears from that that they knew right away this was extremely serious and not just a “she walked away” or went out with someone else type thing.

 

[shadowsc]

What made TMZ think they were local? Something else in there maybe?

I think it was the fact that the ransom letter was sent to two local news stations. (Which...anyone could google?) Harvey also said if the money was paid, Nancy would be returned to Tucson in 12 hours. So he deduced that Nancy was now somewhere in a 12 hour driving radius.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I’ve been looking at the drone footage looking for the location of the septic tank on google maps, I think I’ve found it here circled in red, it’s behind the neighbours house.

I see 2 a/c units. But am missing a septic tank lid somehow.

 

[tbgo]

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

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[shadowsc]

Mary Coleman
@Mary_reports
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We just received the following message from the Pima County Sheriff’s Department: “Good afternoon, media partners - At the request of the Guthrie family, the Pima County Sheriff’s Department will maintain a presence at Nancy Guthrie’s residence for security purposes going forward. Members of the media and the public are reminded that all traffic laws and private property laws must be followed. No trespassing is allowed on Nancy Guthrie’s property. Violations will be subject to enforcement. We appreciate your cooperation.”

So.....that took a week....

 

[JaimeInLA]

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

Murdered that night and dumped in the desert. The kidnapping is just a red herring to draw attention away from the murder. And possibly to collect a larger insurance payout.

 

[Napoli]

The stock market is up like 1000% since 2009-- unless she has been saving her salary under her mattress, she would be heavily invested in the market. She probably actually does have a net worth of at least 100 million.

And yes she could borrow against investments-- her wealth or business manager would be able to come up with $6 million cash in an hour.

Why is everyone counting someone else's money? BAD FORM. jmo