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It has been eerily quiet today. I really hope this means here have been big advances in the investigation.
 
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We received your message and we understand. First words in Savanah's plea, especially , We understand.
Any idea what this could mean ? I've been wracking my brains on this !
What could anyone understand in all this ?
Anyone ?
I think it’s just them responding to whatever threat was hurled their way in those letters. They are trying to maintain communication despite whatever awful thing was contained in the letter. Suppose it said “if you ever want to see your mom’s body again send the money now” — “we understand” would be an appropriate response. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
 
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I had initially wondered if she was lured out her bed and the house by something she heard but if she wears hearing aids that is less probable
My mom takes them out to charge at night.
 
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Here's something id like to know one day: Did AG try to call or text mom about some random topic, gets no answer, then calls a good friend of the mom to say, I can't reach my mom was she in church online this am?
Or does friend notice NG not in church, call AG to mention? Also, I noticed they were over there promptly at 12noon. I have never been to a service that gets out at 12 on the dot. Just an observation. I realize there are early services. Do we know what time the church service starts and ends??
 
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In the context of this story, did you see the weird AI generated Super Bowl commercial with all the big stars in their primes, followed by the brightly colored text screens? It was advertising the generic concept of crypto. It's scary times we are living in.
 
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I didn't think that news anchor's logic made any sense. I don't really care for some news anchor's opinion.
She is one of the few people in the media who has actually read both letters, so I think reading between the lines of her take is relevant. I was trying to read her facial expressions to get a read on if she had any idea of Nancy's status. I thought the anchor looked a little too perky to have total bad news, but when she says the note contains sensitive info, she does look a little grim, so I have no idea.
 
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I didn't think that news anchor's logic made any sense. I don't really care for some news anchor's opinion.
Why take the opportunity to be on TV. and say nothing. if you cant say anything why come on?
the only info i got out of that was that the note was trying to establish that they were the same people that wrote the first note. OKAY…and now what? It’s very frustrating
 
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Agreed -- if you were trying to pull a Tonya Harding (because you're next in line to report on the Olympics in Italy and you want Savannah out of the way), you'd go for her kneecaps, so to speak... not murder her elderly mother.
Now wait a second right there sister
You don't believe Tonya when she says she had nothing to do with it?
 
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I didn't think that news anchor's logic made any sense. I don't really care for some news anchor's opinion.
I'm sure she has to be very careful and is being guided by LE , FBI .. on what she can reveal , after all that news station is the one getting the most vital communication from the perp(s). I would not want to be her. She just can't tell us what she thinks or feels in regards to the emails. I think she's being very professional , she has to be !
 
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I'd like to believe that she is. However, in order to do so, I'd have to believe that the nefarious person or persons who kidnapped her are warm-hearted enough to keep her alive and tend to her needs for a week or more. It's possible. But the bloodstains on the porch lead my mind in a different
Hello! First time posting so please excuse any mistakes I make. I’m confused by the bloodstains on the porch. From what I saw it looked like the blood droplets were going toward the door and then spatter to the side of the door. If they were exiting through the front door it would seem difficult to open and close both doors while also taking a bloodied NG with you. Could she have been going toward the door instead and was stopped by someone? Admittedly I have no idea how blood spatter works I just think with my own doors how difficult it would be to exit through them and leave a mark like that. Although I guess the blood would be smeared had she been moving towards it. Again, sorry it’s just been bugging me all day and I’m overwhelmed with so much information and I’m just confused.
 
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We received your message and we understand. First words in Savanah's plea, especially , We understand.
Any idea what this could mean ? I've been wracking my brains on this !
What could anyone understand in all this ?
Anyone ?
Just speculating here. In the siblings' first video to the "kidnappers" SG bluntly stated they needed proof their mother was still alive. I assume the second message was in response to that video. According to the news anchors that saw the second message it did not contain proof of life. My speculation is that the "kidnappers" responded they could not prove life. SG then says, "We understand."

The anchors also stated there were no demands in the second message so the, "We understand" was apparently not in response to any demands. I think SG knows her mother is gone (one way or another) and is asking for her remains.

Speculation and opinion.

Edit: Also in the second siblings' video SG did not ask the "kidnappers" not to hurt her mother, made no attempt to humanize her mother, made no appeal to mercy at all.
 
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We received your message and we understand. First words in Savanah's plea, especially , We understand.
Any idea what this could mean ? I've been wracking my brains on this !
What could anyone understand in all this ?
Anyone ?
I take it to mean we understand what we have to do to comply with your demands
Just my opinion
 
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everyone will have their own take on it. Personally I think it means that there was an additional message that informed them she is not alive.
I'm kind of thinking too, there had to be some additional info . SG looks totally defeated😭
 
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That’s my interpretation too. Particularly because she said ‘that is the only way WE will have PEACE’. If you are hoping your loved one is coming home (alive) then peace isn’t quite the word you’d use. It is also prioritising the siblings feelings and needs not the moms.

JMO.
 
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My theory and opinion only….Is that there was a call to AG Sunday morning. The caller may have mentioned NG missing from church services or not mentioned it. I imagine the call was rather short, say under 5 minutes. I’m also imagining the call came from maybe a burner phone and was unverifiable by LE at that time and may still be? I think there was definitely a call and that’s why it was originally mentioned by the sheriff. I think this “probable” phone call is very important to how this all played out on Sunday morning at 11:56am.
This story says there was a call at approximately 11a.m.

ABC7 Los Angeles Nancy Guthrie abduction: Timeline of disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mom, possible ransom notes
 
  • #13,397
Did they go in person or send an Uber to check?
I'm not sure what you mean? Are you asking if the family member took an Uber to Nancy's house on Sunday?
 
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I'm sure she has to be very careful and is being guided by LE , FBI .. on what she can reveal , after all that news station is the one getting the most vital communication from the perp(s). I would not want to be her. She just can't tell us what she thinks or feels in regards to the emails. I think she's being very professional , she has to be !
Yeah she is being porofessional I guess , but does she have to come on at all?
Be safe say nothing, When you have so many people hanging on to every word you say to get info, its a tease to say “ i know a lot but i cant tell you” just dont say anything at all. maybe its just my pet peeve.
 
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Hello! First time posting so please excuse any mistakes I make. I’m confused by the bloodstains on the porch. From what I saw it looked like the blood droplets were going toward the door and then spatter to the side of the door. If they were exiting through the front door it would seem difficult to open and close both doors while also taking a bloodied NG with you. Could she have been going toward the door instead and was stopped by someone? Admittedly I have no idea how blood spatter works I just think with my own doors how difficult it would be to exit through them and leave a mark like that. Although I guess the blood would be smeared had she been moving towards it. Again, sorry it’s just been bugging me all day and I’m overwhelmed with so much information and I’m just confused.
Welcome new member!! A quick tour: Bloodstain on porch convos are on aisle 1, church lady call not in report anymore aisle 2, flashing lights in sil garage aisle 3, white van aisle 4, ring camera aisle 5, septic tank aisle 6, uber vs ride home aisle 7, tumbleweed on front porch aisle 8, apple watch, pacemaker aisle 9 and security cameras aisle 10.
Happy sleuthing!
 
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When my mom's church was virtual during covid, on youtube as I recall, people chatted in the comments before and after the service. That might have been a regular thing for Mrs. Guthrie too.
My congregation is in-person and still online, and there is a lot of messaging/chatting among the streamers. I've watched it when I'm home sick, and there's a crowd of usuals who are always on. I suspect there's probably a group of women who enjoy each other's company and chat, and someone noticed Nancy wasn't online like usual.
 
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