AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I was thinking.. $6 million is a oddly specific number. Why not $10 million? or more. Especially in bitcoin.
Perhaps it has something to do with the exchange rate of bitcoin? Or rules and regulations about bitcoin? IDK, someone with knowledge about that end of things would have to chime it.

Someone else here suggested SG's employer might have death/kidnap insurance on their TV celebrities. Maybe the extortionists did their homework and it is tied into that somehow.

Or they know SG's cash liquidity.

IDK just guessing.

SG is wealthy for sure, but not super rich. If she is worth $40 million, $10 million is a big chunk of her wealth. Maybe they thought $6 million was more apt to be paid.
 
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I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?
I just watched it. Interview the ex-detective is quite interesting. Some information about crime patterns in the local area. He says if it is a kidnapping, it's professionally done and possibly cartel activity. Answers some questions about what they could have been doing inside AG's house last night.
 
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This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

I already wrote about it but boy, all I can say is that the “experts” never traveled even to Canada, lol!

Do they know how many countries in the world use dollars as currency? I would definitely put US dollar. I live in the US but from one travel to Australia when US/AU dollar was favorable to me, I learned.

There probably would be other reasons to suspect a person living outside the US, but not “US dollar”.

I think 6 mln might come from 5 mln to the ones who “abducted” NG plus 1 mln “commission” to the crypto-guy.

JMO:

I am thinking that a teenager playing computer games can easily make friends in Saudi Arabia or India or the Emirates, and all these kids may know more about cybersecurity or cryptocurrency than adults. So perhaps LE has to interview some teenagers around NG.
 
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But then they just left with one little paper sack. If they found anything, I'd have thought we'd see more activity, the house torn apart, and more things removed.
On the latest Brian Entin vid I posted upthread he was chatting with a former 20 yr veteran of the Tucson police force.
The former LE said basically that anything could be in that bag. If LE had any trash they would also bring it out in a paper bag like that too.
He also said LE probably should have processed Annie’s house the same day they processed the Mom’s. But a lot of veteran LE retired and the force is made up with a few long timers but also a lot of rookies.
JMO
 
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I forgot to mention this the other day, but I noticed on Google Maps that AG's address appeared blurred out on Google Maps. At least, the address I found publicly online. I wasn't sure if it was the exact same house though; I tried to match it against the photos of the house, but I'm not 100%.
 
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The video is a tour of the home that was listed for sale a year ago
I'm confused, is it empty now, was that why it was suggested to be looked at?
 
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The ransom demand is said to be $6 million, and for that kind of money the employer will want to be notified ahead of time I assume. Of course this case has national intense coverage.

But the amount demanded could be even higher than $6 million.

Perhaps the FBI checking out the kidnapper note is the cause of the delay in paying the ransom.
Do people actually think they will inform the media and public when a ransom is paid? I don't.
 
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I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?
here is the exact segment on youtube
 
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Perhaps it has something to do with the exchange rate of bitcoin? Or rules and regulations about bitcoin? IDK, someone with knowledge about that end of things would have to chime it.

Someone else here suggested SG's employer might have death/kidnap insurance on their TV celebrities. Maybe the extortionists did their homework and it is tied into that somehow.

Or they know SG's cash liquidity.

IDK just guessing.

SG is wealthy for sure, but not super rich. If she is worth $40 million, $10 million is a big chunk of her wealth. Maybe they thought $6 million was more apt to be paid.
Hackers have already used AI to steal information from one of the tax filing services. It might not be long before criminals know all of our financials. One of the Shark Tank guys said this is a good thing, which I don't understand. This NG ransom demand might be the just tip of an iceberg on the horizon.
 
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I guess the idea is to at least for LE to drive there and check if NG is there?
Ah ok. But the property is likely under the control of somebody right, even a sales agent?
 
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I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?
Here is a YouTube link to the video
 
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I forgot to mention this the other day, but I noticed on Google Maps that AG's address appeared blurred out on Google Maps. At least, the address I found publicly online. I wasn't sure if it was the exact same house though; I tried to match it against the photos of the house, but I'm not 100%.
The neighbor's house is blocked out on Google Maps. 5800.
 
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Hello! First time posting so please excuse any mistakes I make. I’m confused by the bloodstains on the porch. From what I saw it looked like the blood droplets were going toward the door and then spatter to the side of the door. If they were exiting through the front door it would seem difficult to open and close both doors while also taking a bloodied NG with you. Could she have been going toward the door instead and was stopped by someone? Admittedly I have no idea how blood spatter works I just think with my own doors how difficult it would be to exit through them and leave a mark like that. Although I guess the blood would be smeared had she been moving towards it. Again, sorry it’s just been bugging me all day and I’m overwhelmed with so much information and I’m just confused.
Welcome to WS, @NonnaBalogna! :)
 
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Just fyi putting on my cyber hat here. If kidnappers hopped through multiple vpn overseas in countries that are not friendly with US or have complex privacy laws, they can hide there pretty well. There are no international standards for cyber crime tracking at all. Just fyi. There's no international body that oversees. So, thats likely the holdup on tracking the email origin.
 
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