AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I guess the idea is to at least for LE to drive there and check if NG is there?
Based on online realtor websites it shows it's not even on the market. Idk why the poster felt so spooked ?
 
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I forgot to mention this the other day, but I noticed on Google Maps that AG's address appeared blurred out on Google Maps. At least, the address I found publicly online. I wasn't sure if it was the exact same house though; I tried to match it against the photos of the house, but I'm not 100%.
The neighbor's house is blocked out on Google Maps. 5800.
 
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Hello! First time posting so please excuse any mistakes I make. I’m confused by the bloodstains on the porch. From what I saw it looked like the blood droplets were going toward the door and then spatter to the side of the door. If they were exiting through the front door it would seem difficult to open and close both doors while also taking a bloodied NG with you. Could she have been going toward the door instead and was stopped by someone? Admittedly I have no idea how blood spatter works I just think with my own doors how difficult it would be to exit through them and leave a mark like that. Although I guess the blood would be smeared had she been moving towards it. Again, sorry it’s just been bugging me all day and I’m overwhelmed with so much information and I’m just confused.
Welcome to WS, @NonnaBalogna! :)
 
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Just fyi putting on my cyber hat here. If kidnappers hopped through multiple vpn overseas in countries that are not friendly with US or have complex privacy laws, they can hide there pretty well. There are no international standards for cyber crime tracking at all. Just fyi. There's no international body that oversees. So, thats likely the holdup on tracking the email origin.
 
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So, my Mom used to live near me. She is also elderly and doesn't always answer her phone. I've brushed it off as maybe she was grocery shopping, or outside gardening, or at a neighbor's house, etc. I then would call several more times. About 30 to 45 mins of not being able to get ahold of her, only then would I drive to her house. AG and TC have 2 kids and lives of their own. They also likely couldn't just drop everything ASAP to rush over the moment after they got the call.
Agree and I would do absolutely the same with my mom. My theory is based on what my initial steps would be after a phone call alerting me. I’m assuming that there were several calls from AG’s phone to NG’s with no answer before they headed over to NG’s at 11:56. I assume, because that seems very natural and expected.
 
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I'd expect that a concerned person from church would first try to contact NG before contacting NG's relatives. Maybe LE has the same expectation & failed to find evidence of such a contact on NG's phone.
My thoughts as well. If I had talked to my friend who said she would see me at church on Sunday and she no showed, I would be concerned. Especially if she had always been a punctual responsible friend and was not in good health.

I would call her a couple of times, and if I got no answer, I would call her daughter.
So yes LE should have a record of the friend calling NG and getting no answer?
 
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Can you just say what, specifically, should be brought to attention... ??
I think they are saying there is a nearby property that was sold a year prior and may be vacant. Another poster suggested this might imply NG is being held there.
 
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I could see this being like a Kohberger or Tepe murders situation, where LE is aware of a suspect and keeping it close to their chest to not alert them ... but this situation is different because it's a medically fragile 84 y/o woman, who may still be alive, and each day that passes makes the situation seem more grim. 😞

"Building a case and taking their time" just seems so much more dire when the victim could still be alive. I just hope they know more than they're letting on, and I hope there's a chance she's still alive.
 
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Just my opinion, it's kinda creepy to join NG's church service, even if only virtually... Let these people have whatever normalcy they can without outsiders eavesdropping. Surely if anything truly important happens there, we'll hear about it quickly.
 
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Do people actually think they will inform the media and public when a ransom is paid? I don't.
Well the public was informed recently that the ransom had not been paid. But would be paid at some point. So we are getting information. I think payment should be kept quiet?
 
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I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?
If you go directly to YouTube and look at his channel, BrianEntinInvestigates, there are 3 videos under Shorts, the most recent ones.
 
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I never understood why it wasn't a search mission as much as a crime scene
Same reason a homicide team showed up to a “missing person” call. IMO

IIRC they called off the search. Were there K-9 units tracking Nancy’s scent? An organized volunteer search? Did officers fan out from the last place she was seen and perform a grid search?

I think there was undeniable evidence of violence in that house and LE knew it was very unlikely that NG was going to be alive for long, if at all.MOO
 
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Just my opinion, it's kinda creepy to join NG's church service, even if only virtually... Let these people have whatever normalcy they can without outsiders eavesdropping. Surely if anything truly important happens there, we'll hear about it quickly.
I posted a link to the church and the livestreams because another poster had asked for the specific times of the Sunday services. I was not planning to attend them!
 
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Just thought it was quite random. I'll delete.
It's ok montgomerie, we are all on edge for updates, and I can only speak for myself but anything that suggests some extra information or insight certainly gets our attention!

I think it makes sense for everyone to be on the lookout for anything that raises our hinky meter, just think its more on the poster on that website to explain more if it was only based on the fact they found a realtor promoting a house for sale
 
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Same reason a homicide team showed up to a “missing person” call. IMO

IIRC they called off the search. Were there K-9 units tracking Nancy’s scent? An organized volunteer search? Did officers fan out from the last place she was seen and perform a grid search?

I think there was undeniable evidence of violence in that house and LE knew it was very unlikely that NG was going to be alive for long, if at all.MOO
Sheriff said in the first press conference that they had dogs, drones, infra-red, but then they disbanded the search and rescue and then a homicide team was brought in. Which seems to have happened pretty fast. Assume it is based on what they found in the house on inspection.
 

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