AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Wsimm]

So, my Mom used to live near me. She is also elderly and doesn't always answer her phone. I've brushed it off as maybe she was grocery shopping, or outside gardening, or at a neighbor's house, etc. I then would call several more times. About 30 to 45 mins of not being able to get ahold of her, only then would I drive to her house. AG and TC have 2 kids and lives of their own. They also likely couldn't just drop everything ASAP to rush over the moment after they got the call.

Agree and I would do absolutely the same with my mom. My theory is based on what my initial steps would be after a phone call alerting me. I’m assuming that there were several calls from AG’s phone to NG’s with no answer before they headed over to NG’s at 11:56. I assume, because that seems very natural and expected.

 

[Cassie P]

I'd expect that a concerned person from church would first try to contact NG before contacting NG's relatives. Maybe LE has the same expectation & failed to find evidence of such a contact on NG's phone.

My thoughts as well. If I had talked to my friend who said she would see me at church on Sunday and she no showed, I would be concerned. Especially if she had always been a punctual responsible friend and was not in good health.

I would call her a couple of times, and if I got no answer, I would call her daughter.
So yes LE should have a record of the friend calling NG and getting no answer?

 

[mikeshanty]

Can you just say what, specifically, should be brought to attention... ??

I think they are saying there is a nearby property that was sold a year prior and may be vacant. Another poster suggested this might imply NG is being held there.

 

[MommaV]

Just thought it was quite random. I'll delete.

What was random?? What was your message trying to relay?

 

[moonglow123]

I could see this being like a Kohberger or Tepe murders situation, where LE is aware of a suspect and keeping it close to their chest to not alert them ... but this situation is different because it's a medically fragile 84 y/o woman, who may still be alive, and each day that passes makes the situation seem more grim.

"Building a case and taking their time" just seems so much more dire when the victim could still be alive. I just hope they know more than they're letting on, and I hope there's a chance she's still alive.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Just my opinion, it's kinda creepy to join NG's church service, even if only virtually... Let these people have whatever normalcy they can without outsiders eavesdropping. Surely if anything truly important happens there, we'll hear about it quickly.

 

[Cassie P]

Do people actually think they will inform the media and public when a ransom is paid? I don't.

Well the public was informed recently that the ransom had not been paid. But would be paid at some point. So we are getting information. I think payment should be kept quiet?

 

[serenebee23]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

If you go directly to YouTube and look at his channel, BrianEntinInvestigates, there are 3 videos under Shorts, the most recent ones.

 

[Starkville]

I never understood why it wasn't a search mission as much as a crime scene

Same reason a homicide team showed up to a “missing person” call. IMO

IIRC they called off the search. Were there K-9 units tracking Nancy’s scent? An organized volunteer search? Did officers fan out from the last place she was seen and perform a grid search?

I think there was undeniable evidence of violence in that house and LE knew it was very unlikely that NG was going to be alive for long, if at all.MOO

 

[MCB1151]

Which takes time

YEARS usually. Years.

 

[mikeshanty]

Just my opinion, it's kinda creepy to join NG's church service, even if only virtually... Let these people have whatever normalcy they can without outsiders eavesdropping. Surely if anything truly important happens there, we'll hear about it quickly.

I posted a link to the church and the livestreams because another poster had asked for the specific times of the Sunday services. I was not planning to attend them!

 

[Strangeworld]

Just thought it was quite random. I'll delete.

It's ok montgomerie, we are all on edge for updates, and I can only speak for myself but anything that suggests some extra information or insight certainly gets our attention!

I think it makes sense for everyone to be on the lookout for anything that raises our hinky meter, just think its more on the poster on that website to explain more if it was only based on the fact they found a realtor promoting a house for sale

 

[mikeshanty]

Same reason a homicide team showed up to a “missing person” call. IMO

IIRC they called off the search. Were there K-9 units tracking Nancy’s scent? An organized volunteer search? Did officers fan out from the last place she was seen and perform a grid search?

I think there was undeniable evidence of violence in that house and LE knew it was very unlikely that NG was going to be alive for long, if at all.MOO

Sheriff said in the first press conference that they had dogs, drones, infra-red, but then they disbanded the search and rescue and then a homicide team was brought in. Which seems to have happened pretty fast. Assume it is based on what they found in the house on inspection.

 

[Wsimm]

Agree and I would do absolutely the same with my mom. My theory is based on what my initial steps would be after a phone call alerting me. I’m assuming that there were several calls from AG’s phone to NG’s with no answer before they headed over to NG’s at 11:56. I assume, because that seems very natural and expected.

If it turns out this horrific abduction was premeditated I would think natural and expected actions and reactions would be figured into the original plan.

 

[Cassie P]

Hackers have already used AI to still information from one of the tax filing services. It might not be long before criminals know all of our financials. One of the Shark Tank guys said this is a good thing, which I don't understand. This NG ransom demand might be the just tip of an iceberg on the horizon.

I agree, how is it a good thing the bad guys have our financials? Unless they find out most of us don't have millions of dollars sitting around and leave us alone.

Yes you could be right. This case is the canary in the coal mine in terms of extortion based on hacking into our financials. They can look at our accounts and decide how much to steal from us.

 

[Charlot123]

Ah ok. But the property is likely under the control of somebody right, even a sales agent?

Given the situation in the area, if I were the owner or the agent, I’d surely let them in. Plus, a court order is not difficult to get.

Why do I feel that the whole case is the creation of teenagers or very young adults? Now 4chan, too…

Perhaps the fact that “seasoned FBI experts” say that the case makes no sense is because they are Gen-Xers dealing with Gen-Z or Gen-Alpha abductors? Then, indeed, nothing makes sense.

 

[Bodhi]

AG or NG? As I am referring to AG's house.

Ah, sorry. I thought you were talking about NG's house.

 

[CandyKiss]

I'd love to know what Brian has shared here. The link doesn't work for me, I assume because I don't have Twitter. Is it an article or a video?

Same video of Brian's but on youtube

 

[Starkville]

Sure. But I think it’s a bit of cognitive dissonance to believe they’d be tech savvy enough to submit the ransom notes via website feedback forms while using a VPN to make them untraceable, yet would lie about about a phone call.

What if the people who disappeared Nancy are different people than those seeking a ransom?

 

[mikeshanty]

Given the situation in the area, if I were the owner or the agent, I’d surely let them in. Plus, a court order is not difficult to get.

Why do I feel that the whole case is the creation of teenagers or very young adults? Now 4chan, too…

Perhaps the fact that “seasoned FBI experts” say that the case makes no sense is because they are Gen-Xers dealing with Gen-Z or Gen-Alpha abductors? Then, indeed, nothing makes sense.

I just don't get the sense teenagers could be responsible for this. Their brains are not fully formed and there is so much scope for them to trip up quickly. We are seven days into an investigation with no clear view as to where this is heading. It also seems utterly bizarre the way the case is being handled and the information being disclosed on the very light end of the spectrum. I am still 50:50 professional kidnap versus someone known personally to NG.