AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Inthedetails]

Why would a kidnapper/burglar knock on the door in the middle of the night?

No, I don't think anyone knocked. I get package notifications without the delivery person ever knocking. At least where I live, deliveries are left at the door and I get a photo of the package. Then I open the door.

It's just an idea to make sense of the blood in that spot.

jmo

 

[Trino]

I wondered if heat seeking equipment was used. Maybe find her nearby, early on that way. If she was driven out of town to desert, too vast to check out there.
JMO

Definitely the desert should be a consideration but 100,000 sq miles. No idea where to look. She would not be alive.

 

[judithannegg]

Just now, I took a photo of a televised CNN story on the Guthrie disappearance: This is my photo.

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I noticed the same thing! My theory has always been that she was dumped in the desert not too far away. Not too far because abductor wants her to be found so that inheritance can be given quickly. Back door was left open to give implication that she wandered away. (We have yet to see any boots on the ground doing searches besides her yard, just aerial searches.) But maybe the "church" phone call was a quick ruse to get family member to call 911, but didn't really think about the fact that LE would ask for evidence of the phone call, so even though it was initially reported, since then has LE mentioned that call or has it just been repeated in the media and on social websites?

 

[LAborn]

Is there solid evidence that she was dropped off at home just before 10pm? Is it possible she was actually dropped off earlier, and whatever happened happened earlier, and the activity around 2am was actually "clearing up"? JMO

They know when the Uber dropped her off at AG for dinner and games, and more than likely the drop off back at her house is verified by electronics (the garage door opening, AG, maybe even AG car electronics).

 

[swanniee11]

But what prompted AG to go to NGs house?

Maybe AG who has been taking care of NG tried to call to check in on her that morning and no response so they went to check on her. IMO. Just a thought.

 

[Sadi]

Is there solid evidence that she was dropped off at home just before 10pm? Is it possible she was actually dropped off earlier, and whatever happened happened earlier, and the activity around 2am was actually "clearing up"? JMO

Her pacemaker activity would show that, correct? Is it paired to her Apple Watch only for tracking/messaging her medical team? Someone else could have just opened her garage door and close it too I suppose. The sheriff stated she did not walk out of her house herself and would have been carried out. She weights 150, so either the person is very strong or there are two people involved. The house viewed as a crime scene right away, was it due to blood inside? Damage? The door kicked in? The 911 call would be interesting to hear what was said and who made that call.

 

[Trino]

My point is no criminal is going to knock on the front door in the middle of the night and expect an answer. LOL

Just thinking if she was up (bathroom), heard a noise a the door she may have opened it. I am around her age. I have done just that 1) calling my bad male cat who often comes at 2:00am and 2) I feed possums, raccoons, occasional coyote. May need a refill at 2:00am. This is real. Two doors. Open one. Look out. Go outside. No security cameras. Neighbors are close. Are all armed to the hilt - gun collector, NRA person, and former cop. Yes. Over-confident. Don't need a lecture. Yes. I am educated. Just giving a true story and a possible scenario.

 

[MsWarrior55]

The Church call should be looked into. Unless NG never missed a day and had a dear friend at Church who would immediately notice she didn’there is t come and called her back, and?after she didn’t pick up, panicked and called AG. Possible but pretty far-fetched. What was the outcome of that call? They discovered that NG was gone without much delay. I can’t imagine that would have benefited a random stranger. But it gave AG and SIL valid reason to enter the premises, potentially before any household help showed up at NG’s. So either the call was genuine or it is related to AG/SIL. MOO

Maybe I missed this, but how would NG get to church? I'm not sure if she watched via a compou

But what prompted AG to go to NGs house?

I wonder if they had called NG before driving over, and if there is a record of a call or not? Seems likely you would call to confirm, or at least a text mesage mom to see what's up.

 

[Justice101]

I have a question which may have been discussed here already. You all know how it is with such a fast moving thread… is the ransom supposed to be paid today? SG said “We will pay.” I don’t know if to assume that meant on time, or early even. If they came to that decision, I was thinking they’d pay sooner in order to their mom back (hopefully) earlier the better. Or was it a message that we are working on it and will pay. Be patient with us and our mother.

"We will pay" - So, is there PROOF OF LIFE??? I'm sure they have been told many times to not pay UNLESS there is iron-clad proof their mom is alive.

Like asking a question that Nancy, and only Nancy, would know.... That would be very difficult to get the questions to the alleged kidnapper without Annie and her husband (for example) seeing and participating in with coming up with the questions. Savannah has an solid alibi. The others probably don't.

If you don't trust AG or her husband, maybe ask some questions off the wall that only Savannah would know... like, "Mom, the last time I was alone with you in your house, I accidentally broke something of yours, what was it?" or "What did I tell you funny about my co-anchor on TV the last time we talked alone?"

 

[Inthedetails]

Just now, I took a photo of a televised CNN story on the Guthrie disappearance: This is my photo.

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Please note that there is no mention of the “11:00 am phone call from church member”

Noted!

 

[tlcya]

been AFK all weekend, just now catching up
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John Tittle, the pastor at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church, led a prayer early in the service as he said the congregation continued to stand with the Guthrie family.

“We are seeking to just honor the family’s privacy and their desires,” Tittle said. “It was communicated to me, ‘pray.’ We’re going to keep praying through this horrific ordeal.”

The prayer asked for God to protect the 84-year-old matriarch and allow her to feel their love, as well as asking to “guide the authorities in their search for Nancy.” Tittle also asked to soften the hearts of “those who are responsible” so they may do what is “humane and right.”
Nancy Guthrie's church asks congregation to pray for missing 84-year-old

The church’s director of communications, Amy Grover, shared that Nancy has been a dedicated member of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church for 30 years
Nancy Guthrie’s Pastor Prays for Her in Moving Church Service After 8 Days Missing: VIDEO

Nanos also revealed during the press conference that Nancy’s disappearance was first reported Sunday morning after a friend from her church noticed she was not at service and called one of her adult children.

They then went to Nancy's home to check on her, and "did some searching and realized, 'We need some help,' and they called 911."
https://people.com/savannah-guthries-moms-church-reported-her-missing-11897480

All this talk about NG not physically attending church since COVID when in the very first presser the sheriff told us her church friend noticed her missing at service.

I wish someone would clear up WHO called family? Was it a church friend who physically saw her most Sundays? Did the church friend have AG's phone number or have to seek it out? WHY is there now no mention in subsequent pressers of this call from church friend and why is the time of that call not in the official timeline?

 

[tkcrockett]

Regarding the blood: Maybe NG's arm was brushed against hard or she banged it / scraped it against the door. In the older population, skin tears are so common and can bleed quite a bit, while are just minor abrasions. Could some of the blood be from that?

but apparently there was sputum in the blood.

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I agree they appear to be passive blood drops as she stood at the front door area bleeding. There is what appears to me to be a projected/impact spatter to the right of the mat - meaning a force coming in to contact with an already actively bleeding source. Although, it is possible that it could be aspirated blood from a couch or sneeze while actively bleeding. Hopefully LE tested that area to determine if there was air/mucus mixed in with the blood. Poor Nancy.

Yesterday on her podcast, The Nerve, Maureen Callahan was discussing Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with Ashleigh Banfield.

Maureen said she read that the blood drops on the porch had been tested and the blood came from Nancy. Also that there was sputum mixed with it, that suggested it had come from her mouth or nose (as opposed to a cut on her arm, say).

 

[Sadi]

Yes, MOO. they are following WS and Reddit. Plus other chat rooms maybe.

Add in LE and the FBI, maybe others.

 

[LAborn]

No, I don't think anyone knocked. I get package notifications without the delivery person ever knocking. At least where I live, deliveries are left at the door and I get a photo of the package. Then I open the door.

It's just an idea to make sense of the blood in that spot.

jmo

My theory is the blood drops aren't from that night, and the perps entered via the garage or other door entrance through keypad. I've thought all along it was someone who was linked to NG via contract work such as housecleaner, handyman, etc.

 

[tkcrockett]

Did they say no forced entry or all the doors were locked when the family arrived? Who said the doors were locked? Why would any abductor lock doors? Totally nutty. JMO

you are correct. they may well have been unlocked.

 

[Frig]

Her pacemaker didn’t disconnect until 2

That only means pacemaker and phone were separated, correct? If so maybe phone was dropped off at house around 2am?

 

[DS2021]

but apparently there was sputum in the blood.

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Yesterday on her podcast, The Nerve, Maureen Callahan was discussing Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance with Ashleigh Banfield.

Maureen said she read that the blood drops on the porch had been tested and the blood came from Nancy. Also that there was sputum mixed with it, that suggested it had come from her mouth or nose (as opposed to a cut on her arm, say).

I personally would not take that as fact, but people can put as much weight into it as they'd like. As far as I know that's not something confirmed by law enforcement

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Somebody upthread posted a link to a ex-FBI or LE person with expertise with blood and sputum, and that person spoke confidently about some of the blood being sputum. There was a discussion last night on this forum with the link, too.

Another poster posted recently that there is somewhere on this website where we can put a word or words such as "Sputum" and look at posts mentioning that word.

There's a magnifying glass that is the usual search icon we see on other websites and it's on the top far right. I typed in "sputum" and that I would like to search for it on this website and all of the times that "sputum" is mentioned in NG's thread is then shown for us to read. Very helpful feature.

If we all used it when we have specific questions of whether something has been discussed such as posters' explanations of how pacemakers work, we could cut down on the multiple post that many of us make in trying to better understand what was previously said. While most of you probably knew how to do this, I was glad to use it and it was quite helpful for me and may be helpful for many of us.

 

[NoseyRecluse]

Either AG is lying about somebody calling from church, which could be verified in a matter of minutes, or there's something fishy about the church caller.

Purportedly, they called at 11 which would mean NG was expected at the earlier service. The second morning service started at 11 I think. Why would somebody from church lie?

How do you call a family member and say, "Your mom wasn't on the Zoom call for the service this morning"? That just seems odd to me. It's not as if it were a board meeting and she was the CEO of the company.

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[tlcya]

I personally would not take that as fact, but people can put as much weight into it as they'd like. As far as I know that's not something confirmed by law enforcement

agree, should be taken with loads of salt JMO