Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[louvillian08]

We don't need the name. Just acknowledgment that such a contact with family was made.

What more acknowledgment are you expecting? The FBI directly referenced it.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

 

[Sundog]

They wouldn't have purchased a home close by if they weren't up for the commitment. Often in families this sort of thing happens, one sibling wants to do it, maybe if they don't have children of their own it's an easier responsibility to take on the day to day. Or they have an affinity to Nancy too.

I agree. And if they didn't want to be so involved in NG's caretaking, then SG could have easily afforded to hire various help for NG and still allow NG to remain in her home.

 

[Wsimm]

I expect that "church friend" HAS been interviewed and is probably terrified that his/her name will be publicized. We don't know the name of the Uber driver, either. Not necessary. JMO

I’ve never thought of it that way. Would LE glide over or omit the call for privacy and security reasons? I’m supposing we will never know the name until it goes to trial?

 

[threeflight]

But wouldn’t he need the body to be found for the inheritance?

I am pretty sure after a certain amount of time has elapsed that the authorities will declare a missing person deceased, especially when it involves a case like this.

 

[missy1974]

We don't need the name. Just acknowledgment that such a contact with family was made.

if a criminal complaint from the FBI is not enough, what is? lol

 

[KBlackRabbit]

TMZ likely has the bitcoin address themselves. They received the note directly

Exactly. They’ll be watching the blockchain like a hawk.

 

[MommaV]

Link showing call.

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/tv/197970/fox-news-savannah-guthrie-mother

 

[shonyakay]

Yes. There. Is. The FBI directly referenced the call in their criminal complaint filing:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

I feel like I’m going crazy with some of these comments. What more verification are you expecting than the FBI including it in court documents?

Thank you. Notice it states "contacted" and "notified". There is no direct mention that it was a "call" but I acknowledge that either of those terms could be referencing a call.

 

[Napoli]

per fox just now..billboards are up in Texas and New Mexico and going up in Nevada. Bitcoin account remains unfunded as of 15 minutes ago per Fox.

 

[HoveringWombats]

It was a call though.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

Am I missing something? That document says "contacted," not "called."

 

[TheRaven]

The Pima police chief was so loose with words at that first presser that I don’t entirely take everything he said there literally, including his statement about NG being at church. That being said, I find it very curious that he didn’t include the phone call in the latest timeline.

For some reason I’ve always felt that the person responsible for her being gone is the same person that reported her “not at church” to get the ball rolling.

 

[Hapworth]

One thing is true IMO- If this is a kidnapping, (and maybe even if it isn't) and the family pays, then it is open season on relatives of famous people in the US in a way that only Mexico and Brazil have experienced.

Very interesting observation. Would you add South Africa as well ? I’m aware of hijackings of automobiles at intersections in MX, BR, and SA.

 

[mikeshanty]

Excuse my flabbergasted response, since thread 2 or 3 plus Banfield’s position many, many posts suspecting him!

Wait, I'm talking about the pastor - not the SIL!

 

[Charlot123]

The cartel angle has never made any sense to me. Why would a cartel that brings in $100s of millions to billions selling drugs travel to the USA to kidnap/disappear a random grandmother for a $million or even $6 million? It makes no sense. Plus, let's say it was the cartel. Those guys are criminal pro's. They would be in and out of that house in 5 minutes. They wouldn't stick around for 40 minutes or whatever it was. On top of that, let's say the cartel did it and got caught. Trump has already declared the cartels a terrorist organization and he is going to eliminate them. Why give POTUS one more reason to go after them? They aren't idiots.

What does make sense is the SIL. He was with her that night. Dropped her off. I think there is a strong possibility he discussed $$$ with her. She said no to his request. He dropped her off. Stewed about it for a few hours. Maybe had some drinks. Went back to her place to try and change her mind and things got out of control. Or he could even have went back to her place later on to end her so that he and his wife would get their share of the inheritance. To me that makes the most sense to me, and the simplest explanation.

The ransom is either him trying to buy time and give a fake narrative of what happened, or just some idiots who are trying to take advantage of the situation.

I don’t know much about the mentality of the people in cartels, but I am still considering them religious Catholics from a nuclear society. As such, they’d likely abstain from abducting children or elderly people - it is a different kind of “sin”.

About the SIL, we simply don’t have enough information. If it was a true accident, then the family might decide to act according to their mom’s potential wishes and then this is all we get.

The ransom angle is either extremely idiotic or what a teenager would add to the mix, but I don’t take it seriously.

One thing to consider. Nancy probably felt independent and did not want to move out of her own house. Financially, she could be inclined to help the daughter who lived close by. Maybe her other children were not happy with the situation but couldn’t change much. Also, Nancy might have known about the dynamic in a nearby house but her choices were guided by being protective of the daughter.

 

[SMK777]

Also a strange detail to lie about, if it is indeed untrue. It's so easy to say, "Well, who contacted you?"

jmo

Unless they felt it sounded like such an innocent statement from family, it never occurred to them that it would be fact-checked.

I believe it was, and came up wanting. This began LE's suspicions.

The fact that it still remains in documents could be LE's way of bookmarking it.

It was removed from the timeline for a reason. Their garage was luminol tested for a reason. Septic tank searched for a reason. Area between the 2 houses searched for a reason. MY OPINION ONLY!!!

 

[Walela]

In those very first reports it was said that homicide teams were on scene at NG’s house. Some of the statements made by the sheriff during the first presser made it sound like it was a grim scene. IMO, I think she could’ve been dead before she even left the house.

This excerpt is quoting the first press conference:

‘Searchers were using drones and search dogs to look for her, Nanos said. Search and rescue teams were supported by volunteers and Border Patrol, and the homicide team was also involved, he said. It is not standard for the homicide team to get involved in such cases, Nanos said. The FBI has offered to help, Carrillo said.

“This one stood out because of what was described to us at the scene and what we located just looking at the scene,” Nanos said Sunday. He was not ruling out foul play.

On Monday morning, Nanos said search crews worked hard but have since been pulled back.

“We don’t see this as a search mission so much as it is a crime scene,” the sheriff said.

Authorities believe 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie's mother was taken against her will

Authorities believe the 84-year-old mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie was kidnapped, abducted or otherwise taken against her will.

www.wcvb.com

Now I wonder what "stood out" from what was described and what they located by looking at the scene....what was the difference and who exactly did the initial describing? Was it initially described as a kidnapping or an abduction? That statement by Nanos seems to indicate there was something that triggered a disbelief in what was described.

LE may know who did this but there isn't enough evidence yet to make an arrest. It would be horrible for them to know and not be able to tell the family they know who did it and for sure the ransom is actually not related but an extortion and stop the family from paying the money demand.
moo

 

[tlcya]

Exactly. That could have even been an initial call from Calella who knows at this point. There is nothing verifying a call was made or received.

There may be plenty verifying that contact from a friend with unnamed family member. I don't think the sheriff would have mentioned it on day one if it didn't happen and I seriously doubt it would be in a federal court filing several days later if it hadn't. JMO

It would make things much easier if authorities would just tell us that tho, how contact was made and what time. Even an approximate time of that contact would be helpful MOO

 

[GatorFL]

What more acknowledgment are you expecting? The FBI directly referenced it.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

 

[Jade]

Thank you. Notice it states "contacted" and "notified". There is no direct mention that it was a "call" but I acknowledge that either of those terms could be referencing a call.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline

Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home early Sunday, authorities said.

www.yahoo.com

 

[SMK777]

if a criminal complaint from the FBI is not enough, what is? lol

Document could keep it in as a bookmark.
See my post #14, 634