AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[HoveringWombats]

I was about to write something about how we really can't take conclusions from how previous cases have gone, because this case is so unlike anything we've seen before. But then I remembered, so many cases seem "unlike anything we have seen" until the truth comes out and most of them actually are the same; we just can't see it because we don't have enough details...

Maybe this one really is different. It still feels different to me. But I am trying to remind myself how little we know, and how novel things turn out to be very ordinary once the veil of confusion is lifted.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I’ve mentioned that I live in NG’s neighborhood. Several people here as well as folks I know who live close to main roads, even outside of this neighborhood, had LE visits over the weekend. They want footage from any cameras facing these main roads: Oracle road and 1st Ave are the two I can personally confirm.

I am so surprised they waited almost a week to start what sounds like serious canvasing of the neighborhood.
Apologize if they did do some earlier surveys and I didn't see the post -- I've had to skip a lot of pages since this thread is moving so quickly.
OMO.

 

[Diddian]

Except…if we all are now going to accept the Callela Criminal Complaint as absolute truth (as we seem to be doing with the “contact” from the church), the first sentence says, “N.G. was last seen inside her residence in the Catalina Foothills community outside Tucson, Arizona, on January 31, 2026.” Not sure how anyone would have “seen” NG in her residence unless she herself entered the garage. I’d post a link to the complaint but it has been posted here numerous times already.

moo.

BBM. January 31, 2026 is a 24-hour period from 12 am on Saturday until immediately before 12 am on Sunday. NG may have been seen inside her residence by anyone she had inside during those hours (friend, family member, service person). The statement does NOT indicate that NG was seen by her family members inside the residence on January 31 after 9:48 pm.

As for the statement about "contact" from the church, LE had a statement from a member of NG's family that this contact occurred and they may have depended upon that statement for the Callela Criminal Complaint (dated February 5). It does not mean that they consider that a reliable statement at this time as more investigation has likely occurred in the intervening 4 days.

At the present time LE is neither confirming nor denying the contact about NG not being at church as expected; they are not addressing the subject.

I am feeling like it is important to be VERY PRECISE about evidence because IMO there may be substantial misdirection involved in this case and we are learning that officers who may been the earliest at the scene of NG's home and interviewing family members did not likely have substantial years of experience (see Tricia's live YouTube last night, where she played video of Brian Entin's interview of a retired detective who recently retired after 20 years with the Sheriff's office there and 7 of those years as a homicide detective). Early statements taken as truth may have not survived that determination as true after greater scrutiny and investigation by more experienced LE.

 

[shonyakay]

Ya'll if this is a legit kidnapping after all AB's got some 'splaining to do honey.

 

[detective.moon]

I feel we've exhausted every avenue right now. There is simply no further information coming out at the moment.

maybe it’s time to throw in another poll? i wonder what we’ll know by the end of this day..

react to this post with a
if you expect that it will become clear(er) what has happened
if you expect that it will only become more confusing
if you expect radio silence today
if you really don’t know what to think

 

[Inthedetails]

You know what else would be difficult? Removing a body from her home, then trying to find a place to hide it.

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Yes, that is difficult, but how many cases have we followed where bodies are found hidden outdoors somewhere. FAR MORE than kidnap-for-bitcoin cases.

Having said that, I have no idea what happened or how this will turn out.

jmo

 

[BrittMontero]

I could still see it being someone who is obsessed with/wants attention from/wants to hurt or inflict pain on SG. They are local to Tucson and can't reach SG in New York, so they decide to target her family. Maybe they've been stalking both her sister and her mother for a while now. They pick last weekend ahead of SG leaving for Italy and abduct NG.

Sending ransom notes to TMZ ensures maximum publicity of SG's pain. If they really wanted money, they would've contacted her privately and told her not to involve LE. But the way they went about it (TMZ and two local stations) feels like the person wants attention that they can watch on TV and they also want SG to make videos pleading for them to let NG go. It's not really about money--its about spectacle and control and inflicting pain on a person they've become fixated on (the reason could be quasi-political, romantic, or some kind of delusion we couldn't guess).

This makes sense.

If it were a premeditated actual kidnapping, why buy a printer, create a ransom note, trash the printer so it can’t be traced, leave tge glove-handled note on the premises with instructions for a drop?

All of this delay & sending of multiple messages to media is just putting the perps at risk. Who does this if money is really the object?

 

[SlimPickens]

You don’t send a ransom days after the fact and add that you won’t hear from them again. It makes no sense. A robbery gone wrong doesn’t make sense as nothing, that we know of, was taken. Even if you had a serial killer, they’re not going to take the body with them.

There are some serial killer kidnappers, but your overall point is valid. The only distinction here that makes me think that a kidnapping for ransom is a real possibility is simply the fact that there is a celebrity involved who has the means to pay a sizable ransom. Said celebrity is also viewed as attractive and likeable by many, so a deranged person could certainly plot and scheme against her as some kind of attention-seeking exercise that only he/she understands.

One also has to consider that an elaborate kidnapping/ransom scheme with proxy IPs and cryptocurrencies as a diversion tactic by someone in the immediate family is as unlikely as an actual kidnapping/ransom. An opportunist could insert themselves into the fold, as we have seen in a subsequent arrest, but the FBI isn't going to use a grief-stricken family as bait to catch a suspected opportunist/extortionist. There had to be compelling information in those demands that lead not just the FBI, but the family, into believing that they were authentic. Grieving family members, particularly ones with infinite media exposure at their disposal, aren't just going to focus all of their resources and efforts on a hail Mary. And it's not a hail Mary when the FBI is clearly involved in the family's coordination and messaging to this purported kidnapper.

JMO.

 

[Athos65]

I am so surprised they waited almost a week to start what sounds like serious canvasing of the neighborhood.
Apologize if they did do some earlier surveys and I didn't see the post -- I've had to skip a lot of pages since this thread is moving so quickly.
OMO.

Oh, dear me, an aside...another Vera Stanhope! I see you've had her long er than I've been here, and if you feel I should back out of the Vera Stanhope-ness, I will gladly do so. My apologies, I'd not seen yours.

 

[annie1038]

Could they be waiting until after the deadline for an arrest - indicating that they have a suspect, but no location on Nancy?

 

[maskedwoman]

Maybe "this" is "this information that only our living mom would be able to answer"

I read it to mean that "this" is peace. They ask that she be returned because it's the only way they will have peace. This (peace) is very valuable to us and we will pay.

 

[tbgo]

I read somewhere that the SIL’s bandmate has burglary convictions?

 

[HoveringWombats]

You don’t send a ransom days after the fact and add that you won’t hear from them again. It makes no sense. A robbery gone wrong doesn’t make sense as nothing, that we know of, was taken. Even if you had a serial killer, they’re not going to take the body with them.

BBM

It was not days, was it? It was the next day (reported missing Sunday, ransom note sent to TV station Monday). At the latest, because we have no way of knowing if it was sent some other way before they sent it to media. It was two days before it went to TMZ, which is when we heard about it, but that was not the initial time it was sent.

Sources:

Overall timeline - A timeline of the disappearance of and search for Nancy Guthrie
Additional detail on ransom letter timing - What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

 

[moonglow123]

Is there a good chance at this point they never identify any suspects or make any arrests for this?

It's wild because Nancy lives right off of a major road. Whoever did this couldn't have disappeared into the ether. They must've been caught on camera at some point. I just hope LE can slowly narrow down suspects on that basis... the person would have to be extremely lucky to fully get away with it.

 

[investigatoroffacts]

You don’t send a ransom days after the fact and add that you won’t hear from them again. It makes no sense. A robbery gone wrong doesn’t make sense as nothing, that we know of, was taken. Even if you had a serial killer, they’re not going to take the body with them.

Plenty of serial offenders have transported, hidden or stored bodies. Ted Bundy Transported victims, moved bodies, revisited sites, Jeffrey Dahmer - kept victims/bodies in his residence, John Wayne Gacy concealed victims on his property...Robert Pickton concealed victims on his property. These are just a few.

In this situation anything is possible. Otherwise, what is considered the norm, would have already been determined.

 

[tbgo]

That whole message is off.

"We received your message and we understand," Guthrie said in the brief video posted to Instagram. "We beg you now to return our mother to us so we can celebrate with her. This is the only way we will have peace. This is very valuable to us, and we will pay."

Why send a message that you're going to pay instead of just paying? Why refer to your mother as "this"? This is very valuable to us. What is "this"? It's distancing language, which is a little bizarre.

Savannah Guthrie in new video pleads for mother's return: 'We will pay'

"Today" show host Savannah Guthrie and her siblings released a new video saying they have received a message and begged for their mother's return.

abcnews.go.com

They want her body.

 

[shonyakay]

maybe it’s time to throw in another poll? i wonder what we’ll know by the end of this day..

react to this post with a
if you expect that it will become clear(er) what has happened
if you expect that it will only become more confusing
if you expect radio silence today
if you really don’t know what to think

Still on the fence and still wondering why the Sheriff said there wouldn't be another press conference until Thursday (unless there was a need for one).

 

[SMK777]

Could they be waiting until after the deadline for an arrest - indicating that they have a suspect, but no location on Nancy?

That thought has crossed my mind.
Also: Wanting to find the body.

 

[tbgo]

Robbery to me makes zero sense on any level. Why rob someone when they are home? Why not wait until she was away? Like say, at her daughter's home for dinner literally a few hours before whatever happened?

Not all robbers know a person’s schedule.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Honestly if you have lived in Tucson for 30 years and know how to spell it correctly, you know that there is not a “pretty good presence” of cartels in this city.

What a rude reply. Tucson is such a hard word to remember spelling for anyone typing in a hurry. I was first there in 91, more than 30 years ago and I still get confused and I am a good speller. No need to treat people this way. None at all.