AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Still on the fence and still wondering why the Sheriff said there wouldn't be another press conferences until Thursday (unless there was a need for one).
I'm not sure that allowing this sheriff (who I have a lot of empathy for, btw) to fill time with no new info, and answer a bunch of questions off-the-cuff, would lead to additional clarity anyway. Probably for the best that they don't have press conferences until they are ready to share new substantive information, IMO.
 
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I don't think they are going to pay.

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(also, if they pay or not they may not release this, because what if they pay publicly and later learn it's a scam?)
 
  • #14,863
Still on the fence and still wondering why the Sheriff said there wouldn't be another press conference until Thursday (unless there was a need for one).
Either because they are moving in on something and are not yet quite ready....
OR:
There's nothing to report.😞
 
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dbm
 
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That thought has crossed my mind.
Also: Wanting to find the body.
They might also have geolocated the perp and be waiting for the last minute before rounding in.

Honestly, if the USA can locate and kidnap the leader of Venezuela in the dead of the night, they can absolutely locate a kidnapper on home turf.
 
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Plenty of serial offenders have transported, hidden or stored bodies. Ted Bundy Transported victims, moved bodies, revisited sites, Jeffrey Dahmer - kept victims/bodies in his residence, John Wayne Gacy concealed victims on his property...Robert Pickton concealed victims on his property. These are just a few.

In this situation anything is possible. Otherwise, what is considered the norm, would have already been determined.
Those people weren’t kidnapped from their own homes though, were they? Those were sex crimes too.
 
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I was about to write something about how we really can't take conclusions from how previous cases have gone, because this case is so unlike anything we've seen before. But then I remembered, so many cases seem "unlike anything we have seen" until the truth comes out and most of them actually are the same; we just can't see it because we don't have enough details...

Maybe this one really is different. It still feels different to me. But I am trying to remind myself how little we know, and how novel things turn out to be very ordinary once the veil of confusion is lifted.
We don't have enough details, nor do we have criminal minds.
 
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They might also have geolocated the perp and be waiting for the last minute before rounding in.

Honestly, if the USA can locate and kidnap the leader of Venezuela in the dead of the night, they can absolutely locate a kidnapper on home turf.
That's what you'd think, yes.
 
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Still on the fence and still wondering why the Sheriff said there wouldn't be another press conference until Thursday (unless there was a need for one).
Because he knows it’s over. He knew it already when he went to the basketball game.
 
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A Fox guest noted this morning that in the case of a missing family member, 80% of the time family or family associate are involved.

Having said that, I am going back to where it was mentioned on this thread that an unknown white van had been in the neighborhood that week.

Thinking is it a simple crime of opportunity by individuals who really don't know how to go about a kidnapping very well. Maybe non American. They simply want bitcoin, money . Smart enough to dismantle cameras and wait to see if police come. But not smart enough to engage directly with family to make the plan work.

And they wouldn't have known NG health condition, unpreared for that. After awhile it's all not worth it to them after all, and we tried to take care of her as best as we could. They uproot and go back to where they are from and NG is simply left to be found by someone. All haphazard.

Dumb and dumber or brilliantly planned. Hmmmm
 
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Given that no one at this time has been publicly cleared, I am surprised that LE would enter the AG home and property for evidence gathering based on a consensual search rather than a search warrant signed by a judge.
 
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I don't think they are going to pay.

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Not without proof of life, I don't think they will.
 
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Wild RUMORS floating on Social Media right now and while I'm not a mod I want to remind you all for the mods to not post anything until you have a valid source. It WILL get the thread shut down.
 
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Could they be waiting until after the deadline for an arrest - indicating that they have a suspect, but no location on Nancy?

I imagine claiming the ransom would seal the deal as far as charges go, and perhaps even add to them.

JMO.
 
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That's what you'd think, yes.
So if haven't been able to by now, I feel this implies there is no kidnap or ransom situation. USA technology is world-leading; the fact they could enter Venezuela without detection and abduct Maduro demonstrates the level of sophistication we are talking about. I'm pretty sure they can track domestic criminals, if they actually exist here.
 
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BBM. January 31, 2026 is a 24-hour period from 12 am on Saturday until immediately before 12 am on Sunday. NG may have been seen inside her residence by anyone she had inside during those hours (friend, family member, service person). The statement does NOT indicate that NG was seen by her family members inside the residence on January 31 after 9:48 pm.

As for the statement about "contact" from the church, LE had a statement from a member of NG's family that this contact occurred and they may have depended upon that statement for the Callela Criminal Complaint (dated February 5). It does not mean that they consider that a reliable statement at this time as more investigation has likely occurred in the intervening 4 days.

At the present time LE is neither confirming nor denying the contact about NG not being at church as expected; they are not addressing the subject.

I am feeling like it is important to be VERY PRECISE about evidence because IMO there may be substantial misdirection involved in this case and we are learning that officers who may been the earliest at the scene of NG's home and interviewing family members did not likely have substantial years of experience (see Tricia's live YouTube last night, where she played video of Brian Entin's interview of a retired detective who recently retired after 20 years with the Sheriff's office there and 7 of those years as a homicide detective). Early statements taken as truth may have not survived that determination as true after greater scrutiny and investigation by more experienced LE.
They were in the house 41 minutes. They knew the camera were not alerting the police when the deactivated them It has to be someone in her circle. I know people that have a cellphone backup incase intruders take down the wifi. It has to be someone she knows or knows the property.
 
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Could they be waiting until after the deadline for an arrest - indicating that they have a suspect, but no location on Nancy?

That has crossed my mind as well.
If it is family involved - it might be that they are going to wait until Thursday for any announcements of an arrest hence the Sheriff's comment about there won't be any more press conferences until Thursday unless warranted.
 

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