AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SlimPickens]

Approaching T minus 30 minutes on the ransom deadline.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Just curious, you didn’t mention Nancy’s other two children?

Yes, good catch. Prayers for them too - nothing intentional in the omission. : )

 

[SMK777]

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.

1. Moderators have said no one is ruled out. They asserted that using initials is required when discussing possible family involvement.

2. Statistically, when persons go missing, 80% of the time it involves the family circle.

3. Permission granted to search does not mean a warrant was not pending. The area between the 2 family residences has been explored. Luminol was likely used in the garage according to linked and approved sources here.

4. This is a forum for free opinion and discussion.

 

[stmichael]

I wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.

We don't know that this is a kidnapping yet. Not at all. (most LE analysts have recently chimed in with this).

It is just as likely that this was a murder and the body was disposed. It right now is technically a missing persons. And the ransom can be an opportunistic scam not related to the initial event that made NG disappear.

We as the public actually have very little information on all these aspects thus far (and I keep seeing people repeating conflicting reports or misinformation). edit- but yes, to look at the family is very reasonable.

 

[Cassie P]

Indeed. It's the first time we've seen her utilize her platform in this way in this case (and thankfully she is!). She was being managed before. What has changed?

1. She is coming out of her shock/denial/feeling overwhelmed stage.
2. Local LE and FBI have made no progress in over a week since the crime.
3. Negotiation with the kidnappers is going nowhere.

 

[txsleuth70]

Really? Why is one of the community rules "victim friendly"?

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

I've seen all manner of breaking of this rule in this thread.

@LAborn

Let me address this.
There is nothing normal about this case. The son-in-law may have been the last person to see Nancy alive. The sheriff has not cleared anyone, and he has also stated there are no “prime suspects” at this time.

Because no one has been cleared, discussion is allowed. However, it must be done using initials only.

The reason is simple. If someone is discussed as a possible suspect and their full name is repeated over and over, it follows them forever. Google does not forget. Using initials helps protect innocent people from long-term harm if they are ultimately not involved.

This situation is unprecedented for Websleuths. We are dealing with a kidnapping in which a family member was reportedly the last person to see Nancy. Shutting down the discussion of the people closest to Nancy and those who last saw her would effectively end the thread.

We are doing the best we can to balance open discussion with protecting innocent people. It is not a perfect system, but ultimately, we are a true-crime discussion forum, and when law enforcement has not cleared anyone and has not named a prime suspect, discussion must be allowed—carefully and responsibly.

Tricia

 

[MissPie]

Please let’s not do a countdown to the ransom on this forum. The pain of this family is not a spectator sport.

 

[maamager]

This is John Hinckley trying to get Jodi Foster's attention all over again. IMO, he has been stalking SG on Instagram. Someone in LE has put it together. SG"s demeanor in her latest video was 1) Taking her control back 2) A feeling of guilt or something that she was somehow indirectly, through her TV exposure the cause of some wacko stalking her and take her mother to gain her attention. Videos posted on Instagram are at stalker's direction. all of this is my opinion. Weird vibe and nuances.. JMO..I think this is the most likely path. SG looks and acts almost guilt-ridden..JMO MOO

omg. OMG. THIS!!!! most convinced i’ve been yet.

 

[wibbleflea]

Megyn Kelly is reading from the paywalled Daily Mail article in the clip below, and she mentions this, from the article: NG was due to meet a group of friends to watch the church service online together. She says that the alarm was raised when NG didn’t join them. It’s not clear to me whether this was an online gathering or not but it helps explain the part that some people have been questioning, if true.

 

[TheDinks]

Do we think the family was advised not to pay?

I think the family have been told the kidnap for ransom was not legit.

That being the case, I think some amount should be deposited by FBI - it'll add an opportunity to trace.

 

[Knox]

Really? Why is one of the community rules "victim friendly"?

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

I've seen all manner of breaking of this rule in this thread.

Perhaps you should take this up with a Mod? Other posters here cannot answer your question, we don’t play that role?

 

[BrittMontero]

Yeah...there is a lot to suggest AG and SIL are involved in this and if you can't at least acknowledge that you could be in for a rude awakening when arrests are finally made

Not only that but statistically people ARE killed within their social and familial circles. It’s naive to not consider that. LE no doubt are keeping those stats in mind.

No one here wishes ill to AG or TC. But it’s disingenuous to pretend that matricide & family money greed/bad relationships don’t exist.

 

[Cipher Vale]

That's not what I'm talking about. There are loads of posts suggesting the family was directly involved! I've been following this thread closely. It's disgusting and breaks WS community rules.

Maybe I'm confused about the community rules. "Victim blaming" to me means "the victim and their family deserved it" or "NG shouldnt have been at home at 2am!"

I'd find it challenging to post on a website called Web Sleuths and be told I can't suggest family members could never be suspects. That would fly in the face of crime statistics.

 

[mikeshanty]

Please let’s not do a countdown to the ransom on this forum. The pain of this family is not a spectator sport.

I get the sense everyone feels there will be some big moment or development at 5PM. Highly unlikely...

 

[watson1]

Correct we don't know for sure but so far no one has been able to find one.

There is usually a lag before unsealed documents hit the public portal where you are going to see them. Some documents are under seal for a time, so you aren't going to see those documents until the seal is released and they are made public. Given the current sensitive ongoing investigation, it's likely any/all documents in this case are under seal.

 

[Cassie P]

I’m surprised (or not surprised) that they’re allowing people to do that given how many times they keep returning to the property for evidence.

Sometimes perps return to the crime scene pretending to observe or pay respects. They like to connect to the investigation. Same with the victim's funeral.

 

[MassGuy]

More police activity at the Guthrie houses tonight, into tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021003952926724347

 

[rosesfromangels]

DBM because Trish's post a few back address what I was going to post.
: )

 

[MCB1151]

Do we think the family was advised not to pay?

FBI leaves it up to the family but its pretty standard "knowledge" that without POL you don't pay a ransom.

 

[DS2021]

Really? Why is one of the community rules "victim friendly"?

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

I've seen all manner of breaking of this rule in this thread.

Direct quote from Tricia


Let me address this.
There is nothing normal about this case. The son-in-law may have been the last person to see Nancy alive. The sheriff has not cleared anyone, and he has also stated there are no “prime suspects” at this time.

Because no one has been cleared, discussion is allowed. However, it must be done using initials only.

The reason is simple. If someone is discussed as a possible suspect and their full name is repeated over and over, it follows them forever. Google does not forget. Using initials helps protect innocent people from long-term harm if they are ultimately not involved.

This situation is unprecedented for Websleuths. We are dealing with a kidnapping in which a family member was reportedly the last person to see Nancy. Shutting down the discussion of the people closest to Nancy and those who last saw her would effectively end the thread.

We are doing the best we can to balance open discussion with protecting innocent people. It is not a perfect system, but ultimately, we are a true-crime discussion forum, and when law enforcement has not cleared anyone and has not named a prime suspect, discussion must be allowed—carefully and responsibly.

Tricia