AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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A memorial has been growing outside Nancy Guthrie's home in Tucson. TODAY show co-anchor Savannah Guthrie released a message on Instagram asking those with info to come forward. More about this story on News 4 Tucson at 4 p.m., 5 p.m. and 6 p.m.

 
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I wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.
That's not what I'm talking about. There are loads of posts suggesting the family was directly involved! I've been following this thread closely. It's disgusting and breaks WS community rules.
 
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Ive listened to a few CSI people talk about that blood, they all-seem to think that there is no directionality to the drops, like as if the person was stopped there for a period of time and the drops just went straight down.
Ed Wallace ( from the duty ron channel) a former csi and Also trains CSI’s all over the world spoke on the spot that looks like aspirated blood, He said to test if it was aspirated , it would have amylase in it. Swab it and test for amylase.I dont know if they did that tho.
AI definition:
expirated blood (blood forced from the nose, mouth, or lungs) commonly contains salivary amylase. This is because the blood mixes with saliva while being coughed, sneezed, or forced out of the mouth.
Thank you for explaining that. I thought maybe if it were a robber/home invasion gone wrong maybe they hit NG or something and NG was able to get that far away before they realized. Does anyone know or has LE said if there was blood inside the house as well or just the porch?
 
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So many references to robbery here. I haven’t read anywhere that anything is missing. Also, for the time in the home. Did she leave in her nightgown or could she have changed clothes?
This is what I have been wondering. It’s very odd there is no description.

If the clothing she was wearing at dinner was in the hamper, surely AG would be able to verify that. And perhaps indicate “she generally wore yellow flannel nightgown/ blue silk pajamas/etc.”

If her dinner time clothing was not in the house, indicating she hadn’t changed ~10pm, that’s a different story. Did she generally stay up late fully clothed? Etc
 
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So many references to robbery here. I haven’t read anywhere that anything is missing. Also, for the time in the home. Did she leave in her nightgown or could she have changed clothes?
I assume the Uber camera captured what she wore that night. So if it’s in her hamper, she changed into her PJ’s.
 
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Approaching T minus 30 minutes on the ransom deadline.
 
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Just curious, you didn’t mention Nancy’s other two children?
Yes, good catch. Prayers for them too - nothing intentional in the omission. : )
 
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I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.

🌟1. Moderators have said no one is ruled out. They asserted that using initials is required when discussing possible family involvement.

🌟2. Statistically, when persons go missing, 80% of the time it involves the family circle.

🌟3. Permission granted to search does not mean a warrant was not pending. The area between the 2 family residences has been explored. Luminol was likely used in the garage according to linked and approved sources here.

🌟4. This is a forum for free opinion and discussion.


 
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I wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.
We don't know that this is a kidnapping yet. Not at all. (most LE analysts have recently chimed in with this).

It is just as likely that this was a murder and the body was disposed. It right now is technically a missing persons. And the ransom can be an opportunistic scam not related to the initial event that made NG disappear.

We as the public actually have very little information on all these aspects thus far (and I keep seeing people repeating conflicting reports or misinformation). edit- but yes, to look at the family is very reasonable.
 
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Indeed. It's the first time we've seen her utilize her platform in this way in this case (and thankfully she is!). She was being managed before. What has changed?
1. She is coming out of her shock/denial/feeling overwhelmed stage.
2. Local LE and FBI have made no progress in over a week since the crime.
3. Negotiation with the kidnappers is going nowhere.
 
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Really? Why is one of the community rules "victim friendly"?

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

I've seen all manner of breaking of this rule in this thread.
@LAborn
Let me address this.
There is nothing normal about this case. The son-in-law may have been the last person to see Nancy alive. The sheriff has not cleared anyone, and he has also stated there are no “prime suspects” at this time.

Because no one has been cleared, discussion is allowed. However, it must be done using initials only.

The reason is simple. If someone is discussed as a possible suspect and their full name is repeated over and over, it follows them forever. Google does not forget. Using initials helps protect innocent people from long-term harm if they are ultimately not involved.

This situation is unprecedented for Websleuths. We are dealing with a kidnapping in which a family member was reportedly the last person to see Nancy. Shutting down the discussion of the people closest to Nancy and those who last saw her would effectively end the thread.

We are doing the best we can to balance open discussion with protecting innocent people. It is not a perfect system, but ultimately, we are a true-crime discussion forum, and when law enforcement has not cleared anyone and has not named a prime suspect, discussion must be allowed—carefully and responsibly.

Tricia
 
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I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if we disagree, we should be respectful. Just because someone thinks a family member is or isn’t involved, let them share their thoughts. Yes, I’ve said I think family is involved and I right now I still do. If it turns out I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.
To make a post suggesting that breaks WS community rules: Victim Friendly "Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."
 
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Please let’s not do a countdown to the ransom on this forum. The pain of this family is not a spectator sport.
 
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No. I won't be gaslit. People have been suggesting the family was involved and that breaks WS community rules:

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

There is a report button - you can notify a mod of the posts that are breaking the rules.
 
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This is John Hinckley trying to get Jodi Foster's attention all over again. IMO, he has been stalking SG on Instagram. Someone in LE has put it together. SG"s demeanor in her latest video was 1) Taking her control back 2) A feeling of guilt or something that she was somehow indirectly, through her TV exposure the cause of some wacko stalking her and take her mother to gain her attention. Videos posted on Instagram are at stalker's direction. all of this is my opinion. Weird vibe and nuances.. JMO..I think this is the most likely path. SG looks and acts almost guilt-ridden..JMO MOO
omg. OMG. THIS!!!! most convinced i’ve been yet.
 
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Megyn Kelly is reading from the paywalled Daily Mail article in the clip below, and she mentions this, from the article: NG was due to meet a group of friends to watch the church service online together. She says that the alarm was raised when NG didn’t join them. It’s not clear to me whether this was an online gathering or not but it helps explain the part that some people have been questioning, if true.

 
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Do we think the family was advised not to pay?

I think the family have been told the kidnap for ransom was not legit.

That being the case, I think some amount should be deposited by FBI - it'll add an opportunity to trace.
 
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Really? Why is one of the community rules "victim friendly"?

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

I've seen all manner of breaking of this rule in this thread.
Perhaps you should take this up with a Mod? Other posters here cannot answer your question, we don’t play that role?
 
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Yeah...there is a lot to suggest AG and SIL are involved in this and if you can't at least acknowledge that you could be in for a rude awakening when arrests are finally made
Not only that but statistically people ARE killed within their social and familial circles. It’s naive to not consider that. LE no doubt are keeping those stats in mind.

No one here wishes ill to AG or TC. But it’s disingenuous to pretend that matricide & family money greed/bad relationships don’t exist.
 
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To make a post suggesting that breaks WS community rules: Victim Friendly "Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."

We have been permitted to speculate about the SIL due to AB's podcast naming him.

JMO.
 

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