AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Yeah...there is a lot to suggest AG and SIL are involved in this and if you can't at least acknowledge that you could be in for a rude awakening when arrests are finally made
Question for you: did you suspect them before or after Ashleigh Banfield announced on her podcast that she had a source in LE tell her that TC was the prime suspect / POI? I don't take issue with people being suspicious, but it seems to me like the notion of AG / TC being dircely involved took off like wildfire only after Ms. Banfield's declaration.
 
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Then all investigations are victim blaming, as statistically it is your family and friends that are most likely to commit a crime against you, and that's where LE and media always look first.

The last people seen with the missing person are the daughter and son in law.. The investigators are obviously looking at that and since they haven't publicly excluded them speculation will run rampant. For those innocent it sucks, I get it.That's "web sleuthing". It is what it is.

What further complicates this case is we really don't know what happened. If there was an actual abduction, if there was another initial crime, if the ransom angle is an unrelated opportunistic scam. It just is still in essence a missing person. The investigation has shed no definitive light on these issues yet, and have no obligation to the public. Again, it is what it is.
Agree. Victim blaming is more like im going to blame the Iowa students for not locking the back door. Or blaming their moms for not doing something. These relatives are not victims just yet until a perp has been named or until they have been ruled out. Once LE says, "AG, SG and TC" have been cleared, then they havent. Its a process. Its an examination which is critical as it should be. Taking someone's word for it is neither scientific or reasonable. You do not know the family dynamics. You are basing on your own experiences with families and many of us have family members, who... i wouldn't be shocked if involved in something like this. Think about "high functioning drug addict step brother" or whoever. I have people in my family not above this 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬, so why would I assume her family is above it?
 
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Thank You. EveryONE is entitled to their opinion whether we like it or not and as long as it follows the rules here it shouldn't be an issue. If there was 'bashing' of the family Tricia and the mods would definitely address it.

MOO
So agree and opinions and personal thought patterns are very important in the big scheme of things. I’m an admittedly a VERY a black-and-white thinker, and very stubborn at times to be persuaded from my original thoughts. There have been so many thoughtfully, written out comments posted here that allow me to see my stubborn perspective completely different.
 
  • #15,445
No. I won't be gaslit. People have been suggesting the family was involved and that breaks WS community rules:

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."
It was stated multiple times by mods that as long as LE has not cleared anyone, any suspicions referring to family by initials only would be allowed
 
  • #15,446
So was FBI only brought in to handle the ransom part of the investigation?

I really wish they were point, I hate to say i don’t have confidence in local LE…. but well ummm
No. They were brought in early, likely because of their technical expertise.

But the ransom stuff is entirely their purview.
 
  • #15,447
No, sorry. That doesn't give us permission to do it.
The whole point of this website is to sleuth, why would it not be appropriate to consider family members?
 
  • #15,448
Something about SG’s latest Instagram appeal is odd. This is not designed as a criticism of her personally, but from a purely practical, “what would be the most effective appeal?” perspective.

If the goal is to generate new information, I’m not convinced Instagram is the strongest channel:

1. Her audience likely skews toward major urban areas and national media markets (e.g. New York, California), rather than the specific local area where relevant sightings or information are most likely to come from.

2. There is risk with a mass-audience appeal that it produces a large volume of speculative responses, thereby diluting useful tips and make triage harder for law enforcement.

3. The appeal does not seem to be directed at specific groups who are statistically more likely to have seen something. For example local residents, drivers, delivery workers, neighbours, or people travelling through the immediate area at relevant times.

4. Instagram’s algorithm prioritises engagement. So posts end up circulating more widely based on likes and shares but not necessarily geographic relevance.

5. It seems well intentioned but kind of pointless in a way - as has been pointed out, we haven't even been told what NG was wearing on the day she was abducted and SG hasn't elaborated - so how is anyone meant to spot her without basic details?

Would a more effective approach be to do outreach through regional news outlets, if this is a genuine appeal for information?

I'm not trying to suggest there is some strategy happening with this post, or that the appeal is fake. It just strikes me as not particularly effective and to be honest - a bit bizarre - a nationwide anchor asking millions of followers if they saw something strange to report it?

Just my personal observation, trying to look at this logically rather than emotionally.
I'm watching her instagram post right now on one of our regional news outlets...it's being picked up and played everywhere.
 
  • #15,449
No. I won't be gaslit. People have been suggesting the family was involved and that breaks WS community rules:

>>"Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."
Although I agree with you, we have to remember that AB who is considered MSM is the one that stated a certain family member. I don't recall seeing any of us bring that up first. IIRC I know we thought someone close to her family/gardner, repairman etc but I don't recall anyone saying a specific person until that what brought up.
 
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Question for you: did you suspect them before or after Ashleigh Banfield announced on her podcast that she had a source in LE tell her that TC was the prime suspect / POI? I don't take issue with people being suspicious, but it seems to me like the notion of AG / TC being dircely involved took off like wildfire only after Ms. Banfield's declaration.
Honestly? Suspected them the moment I learned she has been at AGES house right before SIL dropped her home. It's always the last person to see them alive you need to look extra long and hard at.
 
  • #15,452
To make a post suggesting that breaks WS community rules: Victim Friendly "Always show respect for victims and their families. No victim blaming or insensitive speculation."
I am 100% in your court. My way around this is to, basically, not engage with anyone pushing the theory. For example, I refuse to watch Ashleigh Banfield's coverage of this case. Not because I believe her source in unreliable; it's because I believe it wasn't her place to release such information to the public, true or not. It felt like a "gotcha" type of reporting and I loathe that style because it benefits no one.
 
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i don’t want to report unverified information. Has anyone got any updates on a suspect?
 
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That's not what I'm talking about. There are loads of posts suggesting the family was directly involved! I've been following this thread closely. It's disgusting and breaks WS community rules.
seriously. I hear your concerns but you need to talk to Tricia. She has been very clear.
 
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Question for you: did you suspect them before or after Ashleigh Banfield announced on her podcast that she had a source in LE tell her that TC was the prime suspect / POI? I don't take issue with people being suspicious, but it seems to me like the notion of AG / TC being dircely involved took off like wildfire only after Ms. Banfield's declaration.
FWIW, I didn’t really suspect them until LE searched their home for 3+ hours. But all the smoke makes me think there’s a fire somewhere.
 
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I wouldn't say there isn't anything to suggest family. It has been said, even on this forum, that random kidnappings are extremely rare. They often involve people close - and since NG wouldnt have business associates, a scorned lover, and any other non-familial person that makes sense - to look at family or in-laws is reasonable.
Then all investigations are victim blaming, as statistically it is your family and friends that are most likely to commit a crime against you, and that's where LE and media always look first.

The last people seen with the missing person are the daughter and son in law.. The investigators are obviously looking at that and since they haven't publicly excluded them speculation will run rampant. For those innocent it sucks, I get it.That's "web sleuthing". It is what it is.

What further complicates this case is we really don't know what happened. If there was an actual abduction, if there was another initial crime, if the ransom angle is an unrelated opportunistic scam. It just is still in essence a missing person. The investigation has shed no definitive light on these issues yet, and have no obligation to the public. Again, it is what it is.
It's one thing to be the police and investigate all possibilities. Its another thing to make accusations publicly. If the SIL is innocent, how much additional pain have you and others caused the Guthrie family? We should all ask if we want to be a positive force or a negative one, that makes others' life a little harder.
 
  • #15,458
About 20 minutes til the deadline.

Here’s the latest from Sheriff Nanos:“We do not have any additional information to release publicly this afternoon. The investigation into Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance remains active and ongoing.

We understand the significant public interest in this case; however, investigators need time and space to do their work. If and when relevant information becomes available, it will be shared.”



 
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Question for you: did you suspect them before or after Ashleigh Banfield announced on her podcast that she had a source in LE tell her that TC was the prime suspect / POI? I don't take issue with people being suspicious, but it seems to me like the notion of AG / TC being dircely involved took off like wildfire only after Ms. Banfield's declaration.
Not true. Immediate thoughts of a random family member were expressed.
 
  • #15,460
1. Family was last one to see her before she went missing.
2. Family was the one to notice she was missing from home and called 911 from there. (That means they had access to getting inside.)
3. Family's car was towed by LE.
4. Days later family's home was searched and photographed late at night by LE.
To our knowledge, no other homes or cars were searched (besides Nancy's).
Discussing family's involvement does not seem unreasonable.
 

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