Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Knox]

No. They were brought in early, likely because of their technical expertise.

But the ransom stuff is entirely their purview.

So were does this go from here? It’s almost 5 PM, if Nancy doesn’t surface. Next steps?

 

[birdbox]

i don’t want to report unverified information. Has anyone got any updates on a suspect?

Why what did you hear?

 

[DS2021]

Is there some chatter out there about it?

I haven't been anywhere but this thread.

 

[HoveringWombats]

those "proofs" of being the real culprit (along with the smashed back flood light) were sort of weak.

I have been thinking this too, but have been giving LE the benefit of the doubt on it for two reasons. First, we have not actually seen the ransom messages, so we do not know exactly what details they included. The information we're hearing resembles the game of telephone (with the first person in the chain intentionally being vague), and I really just do not put a lot of weight into "details" obtained this way. Second, I just have to remain hopeful that LE here are, while certainly not perfect, smart enough to realize if some "proof" is not convincing. Maybe that will be proven wrong, but in an information vacuum, I am choosing to give benefit of the doubt.

 

[DS2021]

Why what did you hear?

If its not from a reliable source its gonna get deleted

 

[SlimPickens]

No. They were brought in early, likely because of their technical expertise.

But the ransom stuff is entirely their purview.

I just can't fathom the idea that the FBI supported/encouraged/permitted SG to make those ransom response videos if they didn't genuinely believe that the ransom demand was authentic and compelling. I can't imagine the psychological damage that SG will have if it turns out that those were merely from an extortioner, that her mother is actually deceased and has been from Day 1, and that all of this was perhaps committed by folks in her immediate vicinity, and in whom she trusted the most. Just can't imagine the emotional fallout from all of that if it turns out to be true.

That's why I hope it isn't true. I hope that the powers that be have had answers for her that none of us are privy to. That she believes her mother is still alive not because of shock, denial, or faith, but due to those in charge of looking after her and her interests for the past 7-8 days being forthcoming to her. Because that is in their job description too.

JMO.

 

[Arkay]

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. -Dylan Thomas

@MassGuy


I think you and I discussed long ago that this excerpt in your signature is from one of my favorite poems. Not sure if we did or not.

Now I hope it applies to Nancy.

I hope she gave hell to whomever dragged her out of her home. Whether she is dead or alive, I hope she fought all the way.

JMO

 

[NavySubMom]

1. Family was last one to see her before she went missing.
2. Family was the one to notice she was missing from home and called 911 from there. (That means they had access to getting inside.)
3. Family's car was towed by LE.
4. Days later family's home was searched and photographed late at night by LE.
To our knowledge, no other homes or cars were searched (besides Nancy's).
Discussing family's involvement does not seem unreasonable.

I thought it was the family from the get-go. 100%. I still think they are involved. The ransom notes are red herrings, IMO. An accidental family-caused death, not thinking the cover of ransoms/notes would take on a life of their own. MOO.

 

[txsleuth70]

"Random" family member, but not TO specifically, right?

Correct. With the mention of bitcoin some hypothesized late 20-something/early 30's grandchild. Then it was determined that one of those (grandchild that age) didn't exist. When did AB mention TC day 2 or day 3?

 

[birdbox]

If its not from a reliable source its gonna get deleted

Post link

 

[JoeFromLB]

I fear this case has been botched from the get go.

The State Police should have been brought in IMMEDIATELY to help with this case. This tiny agency is not equipped.

Both Nancy’s AND Annie’s properties should have been sealed off as crime scenes. NO MATTER WHAT. Those were the last supposed places Nancy was seen alive. All vehicles should have been seized.

Then ALL the family members should have been dragged down to the police station and DRILLED. Questioned. Proved their timeline by providing corroborating evidence. Taken polygraphs, etc.

All electronic devices should have been seized.

All vehicles should have been seized.

And should have been done for purposes of elimination. Eliminate the family first. Then work out.

This is LE 101

These “statements” about driving Nancy home, at what time, by whom, and what exactly happened at the drop off don’t make any sense. Was it just the SIL? Was it Annie & the SIL? How does an 85yo woman with SERIOUS physical limitations get into her garage in 2 minutes? There should be history on that remote opener to show the average time it takes her. 2 minutes just seems way too short.

Crime scene experts should have gone over BOTH properties with a fine toothed comb. As well as all vehicles. These were places that Nancy was confirmed to be.

That first critical 48hr window has been lost here because of sloppy police work. And the delay of reporting Nancy’s disappearance.

We are now into the 2nd week and they are just now checking Annie’s house with Luminol. After the family has continued living there? And possibly doing a clean up??

They just discovered there was a camera on the roof of Nancy’s house. What else did they miss?

We have a supposed ransom demand that has not been confirmed legitimate.

My questions are these:

1. Why haven’t the family members been eliminated as suspects?

2. Why can’t they confirm the legitimacy of this ransom demand?

3. Why do they keep going back and doing basic things that should have been done on day 1 or day 2?

4. And WHY would the Sheriff go to a basketball game with a case like this going on so early in an investigation? Normally a case is worked by all involved without sleep for days. They’re not going to events. This is a very bad look.

This is heading for a catastrophic conclusion. In more ways than one.

Excellent post!
This sheriff's office appears woefully deficient in investigative talent.
Poor Nancy.
And where's the FBI??
It's looking more and more like a cold case that we might still be commenting on ten years from now.

 

[JaimeInLA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021008852385477030

 

[Fargo]

I'm not sure exactly what we are to expect at that moment? I'm honestly asking. IMO

It won't surprise me to see TMZ put up a post at 5:01 pm to blare the wallet is still empty.

 

[SMK777]

1. Family was last one to see her before she went missing.
2. Family was the one to notice she was missing from home and called 911 from there. (That means they had access to getting inside.)
3. Family's car was towed by LE.
4. Days later family's home was searched and photographed late at night by LE.
To our knowledge, no other homes or cars were searched (besides Nancy's).
Discussing family's involvement does not seem unreasonable.

Well said.

 

[No it's not]

My biggest issue with this is the broken flood light and the missing camera. How can you explain those?

Flood lights may have been connected to external camera. So floodlight comes on, camera records. Could be an older system.
If you mean the missing ring camera ( not a ring brand, but similar?), camera might have been removed from the inside of the house and not from outside. Camera may not continue recording once off the bracket, it may record a digital print though.
All IMO of course.

Cheers,
Nin

 

[SRWCF]

Correct. With the mention of bitcoin some hypothesized late 20-something/early 30's grandchild. Then it was determined that one of those (grandchild that age) doesn't exist. When did AB mention TC day 2 or day 3?

OK, that totally makes sense to me. Some people are just heavily influenced by anything a person in the "media" says, especially when coupled with "my high-level LE source told me that . . ." They turn their brains off and don't think for themselves.

 

[Napoli]

Have the family take lie detector tests..then eliminate them for the time being.

 

[DS2021]

Post link

I dont have a link to post so idk what you are asking of me

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Maybe SIL and AG knew a warrant would look bad - both optically and the probable cause disclosed to a judge - and chose to go the "consent" route because they knew it would happen regardless ?

Or, perhaps SIL and AG are completely innocent and want to help because they're unconcerned about anything being found?

 

[txsleuth70]

What would make this a case of extortion vs. a kidnapping? That she left willingly (unbeknownst to her)? Just considering any wild scenario...