AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I'm not sure exactly what we are to expect at that moment? I'm honestly asking. IMO
It won't surprise me to see TMZ put up a post at 5:01 pm to blare the wallet is still empty.
 
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1. Family was last one to see her before she went missing.
2. Family was the one to notice she was missing from home and called 911 from there. (That means they had access to getting inside.)
3. Family's car was towed by LE.
4. Days later family's home was searched and photographed late at night by LE.
To our knowledge, no other homes or cars were searched (besides Nancy's).
Discussing family's involvement does not seem unreasonable.
Well said.
 
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My biggest issue with this is the broken flood light and the missing camera. How can you explain those?
Flood lights may have been connected to external camera. So floodlight comes on, camera records. Could be an older system.
If you mean the missing ring camera ( not a ring brand, but similar?), camera might have been removed from the inside of the house and not from outside. Camera may not continue recording once off the bracket, it may record a digital print though.
All IMO of course.

Cheers,
Nin
 
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Correct. With the mention of bitcoin some hypothesized late 20-something/early 30's grandchild. Then it was determined that one of those (grandchild that age) doesn't exist. When did AB mention TC day 2 or day 3?
OK, that totally makes sense to me. Some people are just heavily influenced by anything a person in the "media" says, especially when coupled with "my high-level LE source told me that . . ." They turn their brains off and don't think for themselves.
 
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Have the family take lie detector tests..then eliminate them for the time being.
 
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Maybe SIL and AG knew a warrant would look bad - both optically and the probable cause disclosed to a judge - and chose to go the "consent" route because they knew it would happen regardless ?
Or, perhaps SIL and AG are completely innocent and want to help because they're unconcerned about anything being found?
 
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What would make this a case of extortion vs. a kidnapping? That she left willingly (unbeknownst to her)? Just considering any wild scenario...
 
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Ransom deadline is now six minutes away.
 
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Or, perhaps SIL and AG are completely innocent and want to help because they're unconcerned about anything being found?
Anything is possible, but the LE concentration on them is typical of not being able to rule them out. That suggests digital footprints and alibi aren't readily available for either of them.

Couple that with some of the financial entanglements they have with NG and it begins to look like motive.
 
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Page #777.
Maybe we'll get lucky.
I don't want to get to #1,000.
Please bring Nancy home, and if that's not possible please give SG a resolution of this mystery!
 
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JP Getty III, Jaycee Dugard...

Answer: it's been a very long while. Most are children. I keep thinking, why take an 80+ grandmother? I suppose it's unlikely that she would try to escape, but there's a possibility that she could die of a heart attack, simply from the stress. She's such an odd victim. Was it a crime of opportunity, or was someone holding a grudge against her or a family member?
Sadly I thought of the Charles Lindbergh child kidnapping in the early 1930s. Circa 1932 IIRC? :( MOO
 
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Right not "required" but LE would always cover their bases and have one incase a defense attorney would later claim this or that wasn't agreed.

I will be honest, I am not sure that we can assume this LE group would cover their bases based on what they've done so far. I would like to *think* so. But I am not sure enough to assume that.
 
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Have the family take lie detector tests..then eliminate them for the time being.

Absolutely. 100% Lie Detectors should have been administered to the family right-off-the-bat. Eliminate them first. Then branch out from there. Unless someone fails.
 
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Then all investigations are victim blaming, as statistically it is your family and friends that are most likely to commit a crime against you, and that's where LE and media always look first.

The last people seen with the missing person are the daughter and son in law.. The investigators are obviously looking at that and since they haven't publicly excluded them speculation will run rampant. For those innocent it sucks, I get it.That's "web sleuthing". It is what it is.

What further complicates this case is we really don't know what happened. If there was an actual abduction, if there was another initial crime, if the ransom angle is an unrelated opportunistic scam. It just is still in essence a missing person. The investigation has shed no definitive light on these issues yet, and have no obligation to the public. Again, it is what it is.
She's gone SOMEONE took her. Motivation and circumstances unknown. If it isn't an abduction what exactly is it?
 
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T minus 3 minutes.
 
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