Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Napoli]

I'm by no means an expert on jammers and can only say that where I live, in San Francisco they are commonly used in crimes. That may not be the case elsewhere.

I think it's another possibility that may have complicated the investigation. The dead zone of NGs immediate neighborhood likely has a similar effect. It was interesting to hear that a neighbor(s) also had interruption. If the times match it seems likely? Not sure if it matters beyond that?

Some areas only can get WIFI from one provider. For Example, I had no choice until recently. Therefore, everyone on my street could only obtain WIFI from one provider. Does it follow that if the WIFI provider's signal goes wonky, then the recipients who are all receiving WIFI on that street would all be affected? In other words, wonky WIFI doesnt = jammer. It = system in neighborhood had temporary instable WIFI. JMO

 

[shonyakay]

@Napoli

The point I was making about Nancy's garbage cans is that they are in the same enclosure that her breaker unit is. You can't see them in the previous picture but they are in that enclosure. See pictures at link.

Since Nancy has limited mobility and has hired help around her home it is not a stretch to think that area would be easily accessible to someone since her garbage cans are kept in there.

https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/local/arizona/2026/02/06/investigators-search-nancy-guthrie-house-photos/88560357007/

 

[FaviousM]

Some areas only can get WIFI from one provider. For Example, I had no choice until recently. Therefore, everyone on my street could only obtain WIFI from one provider. Does it follow that if the WIFI provider's signal goes wonky, then the recipients who are all receiving WIFI on that street would all be affected? In other words, wonky WIFI doesnt = jammer. It = system in neighborhood had temporary instable WIFI. JMO

That would be a pretty wild coincidence though, for the neighbourhood to have an ISP failure specifically at the time that NG was abducted.

Not saying it isn't possible, but the odds must be pretty low

 

[stmichael]

I'm not talking about NGs home I'm talking about the neighborhood as a whole. I'm saying it doesn't make sense that a wifi jammer is the explanation for the neighborhood not capturing this perp on camera. It doesn't seem efficient for a perp to use a wifi jammer to blackout a neighborhood due to lack of range and the large space between each home.

I addressed this is two posts above. One on wifi jammers. Most portable wifi jammers don't have that capability (15-50 ft at most) depending on obstacles and other factors. I hardly think the $5 holster and $15 backpack crew have a military grade non-portable jammer. So I agree with you there.

Regarding why they did not get the skell on anyone's cameras?

I replied directly to you with this post only a few above that includes pictures to illustrate.

Given the layout, distances, privacy landscaping, uniquely dark conditions, and many other factors in this neighborhood I am not surprised that any residential system did not pick him up at all.

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Friday at 1:41 PM

They are insinuating that a jammer might be the reason why the perp wasn't caught on any other camera in the neighborhood. But there's no reports of neighbors cameras being destroyed or missing, or public cameras from businesses, roads, etc. IMO

Many neighbors interviewed did not have cameras. Most that did would not reach out to the road, and had blurry IR. You're talking about a neighborhood spaced out, no direct sight lines (staggered house planning), very dark from low light ordinance. Obstructed views with hedges and privacy landscaping.. Unless people have POE 4K cams wired...

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[maskedwoman]

This is what I believe and have mentioned several times. So I totally agree. Our easy access to crime materials (Dateline) can make someone believe they know what to do. I believe certain generations view everything like a video game -- war, murder, theft, driving-- without understanding the complexities. A caper movie makes it all look easy. JMOO

I agree. Even driving a car. I see people every day who drive like they are playing grand theft auto. Except in real life, the car is not back in your garage, in perfect condition, the next day. I think video games condition certain people to feel there are no real consequences. In which case, I worry very much about what has happened to NG.

 

[DizzyB]

@Napoli

The point I was making about Nancy's garbage cans is that they are in the same enclosure that her breaker unit is. You can't see them in the previous picture but they are in that enclosure. See pictures at link.

Since Nancy has limited mobility and has hired help around her home it is not a stretch to think that area would be easily accessible to someone since her garbage cans are kept in there.

https://www.azcentral.com/picture-gallery/news/local/arizona/2026/02/06/investigators-search-nancy-guthrie-house-photos/88560357007/

What’s the garbage situation-do trash collectors go to the enclosure or does it have to be put out on the curb (assuming someone would handle for Nancy). Anyone watch Task on HBO? The garbage collectors use their routes to identify and rob drug dealers. Things went horribly unexpected and wrong on the show while they were committing their crimes.

 

[SherryLock]

The video below has already been posted a couple of times but I want to reference where they say that there's been no widespread, organized search of the desert, even though the Cajun Navy has sent a 42-page plan offering to assist.

Some people think that suggests that the sheriff is just not doing very well at this, to not accept the help. But imo it could also strongly suggest that LE already knows who did it.

Where is Nancy Guthrie? FBI searches home next door, speaks to neighbors

FBI agents searched a home west of Nancy Guthrie’s house as the investigation entered Day 32.

www.newsnationnow.com

MOO

 

[K9Enzo]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI questions neighbors about tech lead as search hits day 34​

One of Nancy Guthrie's neighbors said that their camera closest to the missing 84-year-old's home was missing video from the overnight hours of Feb. 1, when she disappeared.

According to NBC News, a couple that lives adjacent to Guthrie's home said they have four cameras on their property, noting the one closest to the missing 84-year-old's home was "not available" during that specific timeframe.

The neighbor said it seemed "uncanny" that the security video wasn't available during that timeframe.

“That’s really weird, isn’t it?” they said.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI asks neighbors about tech glitch as search hits day 34

The FBI returned to talk to neighbors of missing Nancy Guthrie about possible glitches with their internet on the night that the 84-year-old went missing during the early hours of Feb. 1.

www.foxnews.com

 

[maskedwoman]

Very good interview.
Ok, so do we take it that Clemente thinks NG knew the perp, was recognized( even with disguise), that’s why perp took NG?

Also, when he stalled towards the end of interview, he didn’t want to answer Brian about what he thought happened, what LE may be working on. I took it that Clemente has professional LE friends who have given him some clues, or sworn him to secrecy. Inside track on case.

According to Clemente’s overall tenor, I didn’t get that LE is close to having a suspect, RN.
Most of these experts think that IGG DNA will have to be used to find a lead to suspect.

JMO

Well, if we assume Clemente is right, then it's someone with a connection to her, and it's not a robbery gone wrong. My heart will not accept SA until it comes officially from LE. I just cannot go there. So I guess that that leaves an underprepared kidnapper. She may very well have recognized something about them.

 

[UsernameRequired]

I would love to know how long that issue lasted

I wonder if Nest gives you a notification on your phone if the camera goes offline and that's how they know it was not available. Can't imagine there were too many people up at 2am to notice the issue real time

I've owned Nest cameras but now have Ring cameras. Nest will alert you when they go offline from WiFi or power through push notifications or emails (depending on your preference).

Also, with a Wi-Fi outage, Nancy's Nest Cam (battery) version would have local storage fallback and record up to one hour of events on-device.

 

[submarine7]

I'm not talking about NGs home I'm talking about the neighborhood as a whole. I'm saying it doesn't make sense that a wifi jammer is the explanation for the neighborhood not capturing this perp on camera. It doesn't seem efficient for a perp to use a wifi jammer to blackout a neighborhood due to lack of range and the large space between each home.

Also, no, google nest cameras record everything and upload everything (triggered by motion) to their servers no matter subscription status. With no subscription- it gets stored in their servers but "marked for deletion". That's how engineers found the lost camera footage from NGs. The camera only overwrites itself LOCALLY, meaning the physically storage on the cameras internal SD card or whatever it saves to NGs phone app.

Do wifi jammers interrupt cell service?

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

The rooftop cam was found intact later and removed by investigators. That is what I was responding to and you were responding to the poster that mentioned that cam.

I would imagine the rooftop cam faced a back sliding glass door. If that's the case, since the rooftop cam was found intact, do you think it's likely they got helpful video?

If they did get good video of the perps, since it hasn't been released, what would cause them not to release the video to the public?

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI questions neighbors about tech lead as search hits day 34​

One of Nancy Guthrie's neighbors said that their camera closest to the missing 84-year-old's home was missing video from the overnight hours of Feb. 1, when she disappeared.

According to NBC News, a couple that lives adjacent to Guthrie's home said they have four cameras on their property, noting the one closest to the missing 84-year-old's home was "not available" during that specific timeframe.

The neighbor said it seemed "uncanny" that the security video wasn't available during that timeframe.

“That’s really weird, isn’t it?” they said.

Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI asks neighbors about tech glitch as search hits day 34

The FBI returned to talk to neighbors of missing Nancy Guthrie about possible glitches with their internet on the night that the 84-year-old went missing during the early hours of Feb. 1.

www.foxnews.com

My hinky meter is off of the charts right now.

 

[SMK777]

Do wifi jammers interrupt cell service?

As far as I know, WiFi jammers focus on Wi-Fi bands. To block cell service, a device must transmit on cellular frequencies.

 

[pitbull]

Going back to the video of the perp.
Who brings a full backpack to a robbery? NO ONE....
Have you ever bent over with a heavy backpack? It throws off your balance to a degree. The perp had no issues bending over for the lantana. My assumption is the backpack was filled with lighter "stuff". No bulges to suggest otherwise. He's already carrying a gun. No need for weapons in the pack. Clothing or sheets, perhaps?

That bite light is also interesting. I've only seen electricians working in the dark use these. Mechanics trying to use both hands. Plumbers in cramped spaces.

Btw, if you don't want to be caught on camera, why approach it with a semi closed fist? Wouldn't you splay your palm open?

 

[OldCop]

I'd have to believe that if a ransom note were left at the house, it would have been leaked. Not the contents, but the presence of a note. Of course, MOO.

I tend to agree. It seems like people can’t keep anything under wraps anymore.

 

[submarine7]

As far as I know, WiFi jammers focus on Wi-Fi bands. To block cell service, a device must transmit on cellular frequencies.

I looked it up and Google says all radio communications including gps, wifi, and cellular service. That's interesting.

 

[LakeRat55]

Some areas only can get WIFI from one provider. For Example, I had no choice until recently. Therefore, everyone on my street could only obtain WIFI from one provider. Does it follow that if the WIFI provider's signal goes wonky, then the recipients who are all receiving WIFI on that street would all be affected? In other words, wonky WIFI doesnt = jammer. It = system in neighborhood had temporary instable WIFI. JMO

I don't think we know enough about NG's wifi to draw much in the way of conclusions. Internet Service Provider and wifi service are two different things. Many locations have only one ISP, and internet comes via cable, fiber, dish, 5G, etc. Then, internal to each house is a router which emits the wifi signal. The wifi signal makes the internet available to connected devices. In a neighborhood such as NG's, imo, each house would have it's own router and wifi network. While 'wifi jammer' sounds good, they are themselves illegal to operate, sell or import into the US and have very limitied range due to the need to overwhelm the local wifi signal. I am not sure the perp would be confident that the cameras at the home would be wifi only and not hardwired with hard disk or cloud storage.

 

[stmichael]

Going back to the video of the perp.
Who brings a full backpack to a robbery? NO ONE....
Have you ever bent over with a heavy backpack? It throws off your balance to a degree. The perp had no issues bending over for the lantana. My assumption is the backpack was filled with lighter "stuff". No bulges to suggest otherwise. He's already carrying a gun. No need for weapons in the pack. Clothing or sheets, perhaps?

That bite light is also interesting. I've only seen electricians working in the dark use these. Mechanics trying to use both hands. Plumbers in cramped spaces.

Btw, if you don't want to be caught on camera, why approach it with a semi closed fist? Wouldn't you splay your palm open?

I know this thread is 2000+ pages but yes, this has been dissected over and over and yes, there are a lot of strange mannerisms/choices in it.

Also note that he is carrying what appears to be a semi auto that is almost falling out of a mismatched pistol holster. (may not be an actual live firearm, no way to know).

The Walmart exclusive backpack also had reflective strips on it which are notorious for glowing on IR (night cams). Some have speculated it was his "kit" - an assembly of abduction tools; zip ties, duct tape, tarp or plastic sheathing, rope, etc.

The bite light was additionally interesting because he used an approximation of DNA covering PPE (gloves, etc.) but then used a saliva DNA transferring bite light (yeesh!).

I agree his handling of the camera was very fumbled, as you suggest there would be a more direct way to deal with it. Indeed the footage offered up plenty of odd details.

 

[submarine7]

I don't think we know enough about NG's wifi to draw much in the way of conclusions. Internet Service Provider and wifi service are two different things. Many locations have only one ISP, and internet comes via cable, fiber, dish, 5G, etc. Then, internal to each house is a router which emits the wifi signal. The wifi signal makes the internet available to connected devices. In a neighborhood such as NG's, imo, each house would have it's own router and wifi network. While 'wifi jammer' sounds good, they are themselves illegal to operate, sell or import into the US and have very limitied range due to the need to overwhelm the local wifi signal. I am not sure the perp would be confident that the cameras at the home would be wifi only and not hardwired with hard disk or cloud storage.

Except the doorbell cam which people know isn't hard wired.