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Since FOX is allowed
Nancy was expected at a friend's house.....not church

On Feb. 1, Nancy did not arrive at her friend’s house as expected to watch the livestream. Concerned, the friend contacted Annie — Nancy’s daughter and Savannah Guthrie’s sister — to report that Nancy had not shown up and could not be reached.

The source emphasized that Nancy was expected to be at her friend’s home that morning, not at a Tucson church, and said the circumstances surrounding her absence have been inaccurately described in some coverage.


So glad to finally have accurate confirmation about this. Thank you.
 
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Fair enough.

Yet if someone you were related to and cared for deeply was kidnapped, wouldn't you want to plead for their safe return and you wouldn't care at all what people thought about you, in public or in social media ?
Internet speculation would mean zilch if your loved one was being held captive and maybe suffering.
You'd do everything in your power to beg for them !
Omo.
No. Why hasn't SG husband been seen begging for NG's safe return. MOO
 
  • #15,845
In the circumstances, surely TC would've been publicly cleared if there wasn't even a tiny suspicion ???
I only remember one time hearing LE outright publicly clear someone because of major public suspicion - in the Idaho 4 case, Kaylee’s ex-boyfriend (maybe Kaylee & Maddie’s driver that night too?). BK wasn’t even a suspect at the time he was publicly cleared. I say that, because while I’m sure there are other cases it has happened in, publicly clearing someone is not the norm.
 
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IMO he isn’t privy to anything going on and he is talking off the cuff, which he tends to do. Can’t read more into it
Is that the "royal we" he is using? :D
 
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Several posters have asked on this thread recently if LE would need both AG and TC to give voluntary consent to a search of their home and property. I assume that LE would need the consent of all legal and official homeowners. Do we know if both AG and TC are listed on auditor's website as both being official homeowners?
They're both listed... as CP/RS


(I removed the property ID from the link to avoid doxxing but anyone can use the link to search public property ownership records by name or address)
 
  • #15,848
Good point. Also thinking of my own parents, I don’t think any of their friends have my phone number, and I don’t have theirs. So I’m surprised that a church friend would have any Nancy’s children’s numbers handy to call them.

My mother gave my phone number out like individually wrapped lifesavers.
 
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dbm
 
  • #15,850
Fair enough.

Yet if someone you were related to and cared for deeply was kidnapped, wouldn't you want to plead for their safe return and you wouldn't care at all what people thought about you, in public or in social media ?

I would desperately want to and hope that I would, but I am also an introvert's introvert, so I honestly don't know if I would prefer that or being on here trying to gather sound theories from smart people. As of now, if I see my shadow I walk the other way.

ETA - What people think about me is none of my business. I like to be liked, but I can't control that beyond just trying to be kind to others when I see them.

JMO.
 
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Why would someone think he’s not with the rest of the family?

I think because the family has been seen by some but TC hasn’t been seen since last Tuesday. The tweet from BE is upthread.
 
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They are closing in?

I said "if" they are closing in. Meaning on the SIL as there has been vast speculation in the last couple of days due to the searches by LE at Annie's home.
 
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If they didn't have a search warrant than anything they found would likely be barred from evidence at trial.
Arizona police generally do not need a warrant to search property if voluntary consent is given by someone with authority. Consent acts as a legal exception to the 4th Amendment, allowing searches of homes or vehicles without probable cause. Consent can be withdrawn or limited at any time. https://post.az.gov/sites/default/files/2025-11/2.3 Search and Seizure.docx.pdf
 
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If you are correct, how does the kidnap letter writer know about the exact special placement of the Apple Watch?
If the letter said the watch was charging at her bedside, that hardly seems like special placement, it seems like a guess (potentially) that would be correct for 99% of Apple Watch wearers. MOO
 
  • #15,858
No. Why hasn't SG husband been seen begging for NG's safe return. MOO
Probably because he’s at home taking care of their kids and trying to maintain their privacy and security. It’s not like Grandma can babysit them.
 
  • #15,859
Just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt, but my understanding is that LE has 2 priorities: find the missing person, and legally obtain evidence leading to a successful prosecution of the perpetrator(s). Part of the rules of engagement include that LE can withhold information, tell false information including lies, and/or mislead parties as investigative methods while searching for the truth. These can NOT be done by the prosecutor in prosecuting the criminal charges. There, the suspect, who is presumed innocent, has the right to the truth and any withholding of information, lies, or misdirection may well lead to charges being set aside, a mistrial, a successful appeal of a conviction, etc. Just my thoughts, fwiw.
I'm not sure LE can lie. Even so, it would be horrible practice. Withholding information and claiming they dont know things/don't have a suspect is one thing. But putting out lies would not only give the defense ammunition in court - but leads to false tips and a confused public.
 
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I think because the family has been seen by some but TC hasn’t been seen since last Tuesday. The tweet from BE is upthread.

do you have a link to the rest of the family being seen?

Knowing where they are and actually seeing them is different IMO I would be shocked if no one snapped a pic, as they did last week.
 
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