AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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well this could have just been the person who came by to stage a kidnapping
(if she never made it back from dinner)
I agree. With all the video in the Missy Bevers case — here we sit in the DFW area with no arrests. I think this was to stage the scene OR someone was already inside the house and this person was doing prep work. I think it still could be female. But so glad we have something to look at!! How frightening to look at your camera alert on your phone and see this. This is my worst nightmare.
 
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But the groomed eyebrows.....
After Kohberger...they all know to take care of distinguishing features like bushy eyebrows....not saying he had bushy eyebrows but he sure doesn't now. He is still a hair face though with the mustache.
 
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That mustache is either perfectly trimmed in a way you seldom see or it’s a fake.
 
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A white guy with those pruned sharpie eyebrows? Idk

-def. attempt at disguise (yet has reflective backpack)

-heavy nitrile gloves - bulky but def. hide fingerprints

-strange holster arrangement front crotch, open carry. I don't get it.

-displays latanas with seeming purpose to camera
He does not have shaped eyebrows. The contrasting stitching area around the eyes covers most of his eyebrows. The IR light makes that stitching blend in with his skintone in the photos and video.
 
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As much time as LE has been spending at NG and AG houses separately it really makes me wonder if this is some kind of personal vendetta against them. Was it someone like a helper or worker that knew them both and had been inside both houses. Did someone plant evidence in AG home to try and set them up? Do AG and TC have enemies? I watched a weird video 2 days ago where a local of the general area was trash talking the sheriff and saying he thought the SIL did it. I found that so disturbing for someone to say outright like that on video. He was bald with a mustache and beard. It was a post on instagram from “No Filter” titled NG neighbor speaks out… he wasn’t a neighbor but seeing these videos at NG house it reminded me.
 
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Fargo.
 
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Spent a winter there. Don't recall wearing more than shorts/short sleeves. Maybe a light jacket at night.
My husband and I have a running commentary about being able to tell snowbirds from locals. We live in a golf community and the hearty snowbirds seem to be in the pool regardless of how cold it is and they wear shorts most of the time. I've noticed that the workers in our area (lots of new construction) are always dressed in long sleeves and sometimes balaclavas type scarves because of the sun/heat. The people who pick up our recycling/garbage are always dressed in long sleeves. As for me, I almost always take a jacket or winter coat with me this time of year because it gets cold (IMO - lol) at night; however, I haven't lived in a cold climate for decades.
 
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Spent a winter there. Don't recall wearing more than shorts/short sleeves. Maybe a light jacket at night.
It can drop 40-50 degrees from daytime to nighttime temperature in Tucson, and often is in the 30s at night in January - February
 
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So how did he get in?

I couldn't see any signs of forced entry in the photos I posted earlier, and the sheriff wouldn't comment when asked about forced entry either.

Lock pick?
 
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SERIOUS QUESTION. If this was your son, would you turn him in? Neighbors might recognize, friends, coworkers, etc..and I know the family of Charlie Kirk turned in the alleged killer. However..family would probably know clothes, gun, backpack, eyes etc the best. Would you turn him in? Asking for help from the community might not produce what they are hoping, especially if he isnt local and disconnected from family dynamics. I only ask because I am not confident he will be identified.. really no need to answer. Just ask yourself..you might not turn in your son...... JMO Let's hope he has a cousin ....
Yes I would turn in my son in a heartbeat. It wouldn't be easy but yes.
 
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is the holster something like this?
I do not believe so.

The holster seems mismatched to me (as does his whole get up). It almost seems like the holster is profiled for a longer gun (almost like a revolver) and the gun is a poly late gen semi auto shorter than the holster profle. The whole get up looks thrown together, cheap, off. Idk. I carry kydex clips and hard contoured holsters, this seems softer maybe leather or material

as im typing this commentators on the vulpes network just said the same thing (mismatch to holster/gun, all seems"off")

edit photo source: Kash Patel FBI
 

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It's a shame AI isn't more advanced/being worked on in a more focused fashion....it would seem that could be trained to eventually "unmask" someone using shape of nose/face etc to give a sketch at least. IMO it isn't reliable enough yet to do so..I'd be concerned what/who it would "hallucinate"/sketch...
ugh. AI is programmed by humans, with all their biases
 
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DBM
 
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YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT

PS. I received such positive feedback when I did this yesterday in anger that I am going to do this to remind everyone of important rules
 
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SERIOUS QUESTION. If this was your son, would you turn him in? Neighbors might recognize, friends, coworkers, etc..and I know the family of Charlie Kirk turned in the alleged killer. However..family would probably know clothes, gun, backpack, eyes etc the best. Would you turn him in? Asking for help from the community might not produce what they are hoping, especially if he isnt local and disconnected from family dynamics. I only ask because I am not confident he will be identified.. really no need to answer. Just ask yourself..you might not turn in your son...... JMO Let's hope he has a cousin ....

I would turn in any of my children in a heartbeat, if they were involved in kidnapping or any violence against others. Because, that is not a value they were brought up with.

I feel badly for Nancy's family, to see that video, and imagine the fear of their Mother.

But, I still don't see a happy ending here.
 
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YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT

PS. I received such positive feedback when I did this yesterday in anger, that I am going to do this to remind everyone of important rules
 
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YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
YOU MUST POST LINKS TO PHOTOS
OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT

PS. I received such positive feedback when I did this yesterday in anger, that I am going to do this to remind everyone of important rules
 
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That mustache is either perfectly trimmed in a way you seldom see or it’s a fake.
I think it's real just for the fact that if it was fake it could easily become dislodged and fall off. Seems too big of a risk. Very easy to shave off after the fact. MOO
 

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