• #18,261
I think he looks young too for some reason. I still think this could be Zizians lol... far fetched but seems their style.
Oh, god, they are really weird. I was reading about them not too long ago.
 
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Or hopefully someone finds that exact mask, jacket, backpack and shoes shoved in a wardrobe in their partner/son/roommate's bedroom.

The stuff is v useful when taken as an ensemble.
The strap on that backpack looks like something that could be searched. I did a Google image search on it and didn't find anything exactly like it, but I'm sure LE have their techniques for drilling down on a detail like that.
 
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My husband and I have a running commentary about being able to tell snowbirds from locals. We live in a golf community and the hearty snowbirds seem to be in the pool regardless of how cold it is and they wear shorts most of the time. I've noticed that the workers in our area (lots of new construction) are always dressed in long sleeves and sometimes balaclavas type scarves because of the sun/heat. The people who pick up our recycling/garbage are always dressed in long sleeves. As for me, I almost always take a jacket or winter coat with me this time of year because it gets cold (IMO - lol) at night; however, I haven't lived in a cold climate for decades.
Minnesotan. We wear real winter coats. Relative in Albuquerque doesn't even own a winter coat that would make it here. Guess it depends on your definition of a coat.
 
  • #18,265
Video didn't help in Delphi or Missy Bevers, but this case has HUGE attention, not just true-crimers.

I have hope.
I believe Libby’s video DID finally identify RA, once his initial filed report was found!
JMO
 
  • #18,266
Would LE, FBI, etc be able to know if the person who texted AG and her husband was in AZ on the date of these video?
Absolutely (his phone would show that), but that was so amateurish that there's no way he was actually connected to the event.
 
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That mustache is either perfectly trimmed in a way you seldom see or it’s a fake.
There are a lot of guys who wear stubbly mustaches which would show the upper lip entirely like the photos and look neatly trimmed and it doesn't involve a lot of work, just a beard trimmer with a guard 2 or 3 times a week.
 
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SERIOUS QUESTION. If this was your son, would you turn him in? Neighbors might recognize, friends, coworkers, etc..and I know the family of Charlie Kirk turned in the alleged killer. However..family would probably know clothes, gun, backpack, eyes etc the best. Would you turn him in? Asking for help from the community might not produce what they are hoping, especially if he isnt local and disconnected from family dynamics. I only ask because I am not confident he will be identified.. really no need to answer. Just ask yourself..you might not turn in your son...... JMO Let's hope he has a cousin ....
I'd def turn in a family member. I submitted my 23&me to GEDmatch for this purpose. Any one who commits a crime should have to face consequences. I don't care if it's a relative.
 
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the eyebrows aren't fully visible, the mask is covering them. I think that's where people are thinking they are heavily manicured. We can't see them fully, they are under the mask IMO
I mentioned this a few times. They almost look like shadows from the edges of the material.
 
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I do not believe so.

The holster seems mismatched to me (as does his whole get up). It almost seems like the holster is profiled for a longer gun (almost like a revolver) and the gun is a poly late gen semi auto shorter than the holster profle. The whole get up looks thrown together, cheap, off. Idk. I carry kydex clips and hard contoured holsters, this seems softer maybe leather or material

as im typing this commentators on the vulpes network just said the same thing (mismatch to holster/gun, all seems"off")

edit photo source: Kash Patel FBI
My husband agrees with you. Says it looks like either inner holster / holster for larger gun you may find at a ranch.
 
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So "expert" commentators on the vulpes network just echoed my sentiment about the getup being "off"

Mismatched holster to gun, reflective backpack, weird use of thick nitrile type gloves. One even alluded it might be an "off" person.
It's certainly a weird get up that doesn't scream pro.
 
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There are a lot of guys who wear stubbly mustaches which would show the upper lip entirely like the photos and look neatly trimmed and it doesn't involve a lot of work, just a beard trimmer with a guard 2 or 3 times a week.
I guess too that the camera may be adding more shadow to the face/exposed skin. It looks like night vision.
 
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Reflective safety strip or LED safety light on front strap of backpack?
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This guy has a moustache. How many men know Nancy's setup at her home and have one?

This will narrow it down for the FBI

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IMO this person is not as big as he appears. Wearing several layers of tops & bottoms.
Agreed.
Walking somewhat stiffly, it would appear ?
At first I thought it was a bow-legged saunter, but more like moving slowly due to padded layers of clothing ?
Wonder if the person is a woman ?
Hmmm.
Omo.
 
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IMHO--I'm pretty sure that what is being interpreted as eyebrows is actually part of the mask.

In the picture in Justice101's post, look at the eyehole on the left side of the picture--notice you can see that same dark colored edge around the left side of the eye hole as the dark ridge you see at the top of the right eye hole.

My eldest son had a mask just like this about ten years ago--dark mask, white trim around the eye and mouth holes. However, the white trim was slightly raised from the mask and didn't extend down into the eye or mouth holes--because that would be irritating to the skin. So, depending on the angle I was looking him and depending where the mask was pulled tighter in some places than others, the edge would roll outwards slightly--and you could then see some of the dark knitted inside of the eye/mouth holes.

IMHO, on the camera shots where it looks like eyebrows, those are the shots where he is looking straight at the camera--putting his eye holes slightly above the camera. In those shots you would only be seeing the inside of the trim on the tops of the eyeholes, making it look like eyebrows. And some of that could be eyebrows. But note that on this picture, you can also see that dark rim all around the left (to us) eye hole and on the inner side as well as part of the under eye part of the right (to us) eyebrow).

Going to go fish though my closet and see if the mask is still there and/or look for photos of my son wearing it to demonstrate.

All IMHO from my experience. I hated that mask, because it looked creepy AF.
 
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I saw someone earlier suggest that the flowers we noted on the doorstep in previous footage obtained by Brian Entin looked as if the flowers/plant were dispersed on the ground after the blood droplets fell meaning blood was there first then the perp on video messing with plant/flower I don't necessarily think that is so.


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MOO given how lightweight the stems and leaves are they could easily have covered the blood droplets because wind or being kicked by family members or LE in their initial presence at the house after NG was reported missing.

ETA link to photo Apparent blood trail seen outside Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s home in disturbing new video
 
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Those cameras have little IR flashlights, thats why the it reflects like a light on the reflective parts of the back pack. He does not have a flashlight in his mouth, you'd see it more. He has a gold or diamond insert on his tooth. Something that would reflect the IR light back just like the backpack did.
 
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I once accidently ordered an Amazon delivery on super-speed, and it arrived in the middle of the night. Never again will I make that mistake. Scary (and totally unnecessary for me)
A little levity in all this! LOL
 
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