AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Hoping Bitcoin deposit is LE trying to use a deposit to track the wallet owner, rather than the ransom.

I heard an expert on this case saying it was possible which I now can't find of course, will keep searching. So for now JMO and MOO.
 
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Honestly in today's day and age, with the amount of cameras everywhere and the ability to trace anyone?

It seems pretty stupid to even try to commit a crime. I mean, it is stupid to begin with.....but we are not talking doing something in the 1800s where it was based on witness accounts. Or even in the 1970s-2000 where it was based on fingerprints and then DNA.

Today? It is almost impossible today to commit a crime without being traced somehow. Kind of a pre Minority Report.
 
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i do believe the photos were just recovered this morning as reported, but thinking maybe they were released within the last few because a deal has been made for the bitcoin to be deposited and NG (or her body, god forbid) to be returned to the family. could it be that they want the public to keep an eye out for the kidnapper-ransomer when he's giving NG back? or would that be too risky to NG's safety...? probably right?

i'm probably too optimistic for my own good.

i can't imagine being a hostage negotiator jfc.
This is a possibility I think...
 
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I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
There are crypto wallet trackers/portfolio trackers which allow you to see activity/transactions from that wallet
 
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Did they put money into bitcoin account and LE FBI are positioned or surveilling to be able to see computer activity from suspect.
 
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NOW: Federal agents are canvassing Annie Guthrie's neighborhood on foot. Doing what appears to be a systematic sweep, combing through desert brush and going door-to-door talking to neighbors.


 
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I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
He received one of the ransom notes.
 
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i do believe the photos were just recovered this morning as reported, but thinking maybe they were released within the last few because a deal has been made for the bitcoin to be deposited and NG (or her body, god forbid) to be returned to the family. could it be that they want the public to keep an eye out for the kidnapper-ransomer when he's giving NG back? or would that be too risky to NG's safety...? probably right?

i'm probably too optimistic for my own good.

i can't imagine being a hostage negotiator jfc.

Guy on one of the talking head shows made a good point that they've probably had the evidence for a couple of days but had to assemble and vet it and decide what to do and any risks/contingencies. Don't know if that's true here, but makes sense.

JMO.
 
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DESERT STAKEOUT: Fox News observed FBI agents conducting an on-foot sweep near Annie Guthrie’s home in Tucson, Arizona, canvassing a low-lying desert brush area before moving to the edge of a nearby residential lot. A man at the property briefly spoke with agents and allowed them into his backyard.

 
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4:34 PM PT -- We've seen activity for the first time in the bitcoin account listed in the first ransom note which was sent to us here at TMZ, and also to 2 TV stations in Tucson. For various reasons, we are not going to reveal the amount, but the activity happened in the last 25 minutes.

Potentially big development in the Nancy Guthrie abduction ... our law enforcement sources say whoever kidnapped her from her Arizona home is also from the Tucson area.

Multiple sources involved in the investigation tell TMZ ... the operating theory is that the ransom notes were written by the kidnapper, and those notes provide clues on where the abductor lives.

Nancy Guthrie Kidnapper Likely From Tucson Area, First Activity in Bitcoin Account
 
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Perhaps he was calculating for his best approachbto disabling the camera. Didn't want to touch it directly so grabbed the plant material to use like pot holder, in case he wasn't able to detach it.

Got it off, took it with him.

JMO
Yeah maybe.
 
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is it possible there was some kind of ping or connection of Nancy’s pacemaker in AG’s neighborhood post-abduction? have been trying to understand the concentration of FBI in that area but no particular home / people / etc.
No one can track a pacemaker. It doesn't ping off of anything. It's only job is to collect info from the heart and transmit to doctor. Transmitting device was left at her home.
 
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think he has pulled string of lights from plants near front entry to cover doorbell camera not flowers?
It’s a plant.
 
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Did they put money into bitcoin account and LE FBI are positioned or surveilling to be able to see computer activity from suspect.
That was my first guess. Kind of a shark bating expedition.
 
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Hoping Bitcoin deposit is LE trying to use a deposit to track the wallet owner, rather than the ransom.

I heard an expert on this case saying it was possible which I now can't find of course, will keep searching. So for now JMO and MOO.

Here's a link:


"Raviv explained that initiating an exchange of even a small amount to the address provided on the ransom note will ultimately lead to finding the crypto criminal."
 
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Hoping Bitcoin deposit is LE trying to use a deposit to track the wallet owner, rather than the ransom.

I heard an expert on this case saying it was possible which I now can't find of course, will keep searching. So for now JMO and MOO.
And it could be separate parties here. One party demanding a ransom but not actually the party who took Nancy. That's still a huge crime though. I guess that would be disappointing as it wouldn't move the rescue of recovery of Nancy forward.
 
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Nancy Guthrie - First Activity in Bitcoin Account​

UPDATE:

4:34 PM PT
-- We've seen activity for the first time in the bitcoin account listed in the first ransom note which was sent to us here at TMZ, and also to 2 TV stations in Tucson. For various reasons, we are not going to reveal the amount, but the activity happened in the last 25 minutes.
 
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Can you imagine the Google engineer who extracted the videos. He must have been like hoooooly 🤬🤬🤬🤬 😳
 
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I know alittle bit (but not much) about bitcoin, but can anyone please explain how HL would have the kind of access to see activity in the account? Would be able to see if it was a deposit or withdrawal?
The first ransom note was sent to TMZ and it included the bitcoin account number so HL has it.
 
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Just want to say a welcome to New members, I was new once and lots of established long term members helped me find my footing

This case is overwhelmingly fast paced and we are powering through massive amounts of posts so when questions get repeated we can get a little tetchy as we are looking for the important info

Normally we have more time to show grace and patience

Hopefully you will stay to find that out as WS is a fantastic community with wonderful passionate members who want justice for victims and connections to others who are interested in the genre of crime


what we all want for Nancy is for this crime to be solved 🥰
 

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