AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #21,181
In Brian's defense, many of us are suspicious that he doesn't in fact sleep. Certainly during this case he'd be lucky to grab the odd nap here and there.
He's usually very respectful and he's regarded as being among the most well regarded independent crime reporters in the US.
It looks a lot worse just because LE clearly had the wrong guy, but that's not quite Brian's fault.

I agree he's been amazing on the ground reporting on the case. I just think he crossed the line with the interview and the article. Because of his reach I think he probably needs to be more mindful of this. Reputation only goes so far as the last interview you do, just look at AB
 
  • #21,182
Person who was detained has been released. It's a good reminder that detaining someone is different from arresting and charging.
Yes, I’m thoroughly confused at the response here. Police went out of their way multiple times to say this dude wasn’t even a person of interest, he was just being detained for questioning.

JMO
 
  • #21,183
In Delphi it was "Bridge Guy" what should we call the suspect in this one? I vote "Lantana man".
All the Brits here now being taken back to their childhood memories of retro cartoon 'Bananaman' 🤣 I like it though. I can think of a few other names for him but they're definitely not appropriate!
 
  • #21,184
Good morning.

I would like to start the day by expressing an opinion about what we all saw last night in contrast to what is being reported this morning.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-savannah-missing-mom-02-11-26

There was, indeed, a vigorous flutter of hopeful excitement when news broke about a POI being detained during a traffic stop, and the movement of LE in a specific direction. There was even a rising thrum of expectation that air traffic indicated movement to a hospital and, Lord willing, it was NG being taken for treatment.

The moment a location was given, the moment a woman was interviewed on camera and, in the deep emotion of the moment, revealed a name, muttered a last name, a deep dive into the who and where and what started. There was even speculation about whether a person with a similar-sounding last name, and who happened to be a sex offender, was THE person!!!!!

Warrant. They had a warrant! They don't need a warrant. And so on and so forth. The woman allowed them into the house, AND they had a warrant! Phones were taken. Her information was inconsistent...where does the son-in-law work? Where what how...was he driving a van for work???? Would you drive an UBER for an HOUR, and so on and so forth.

Of course we all want NG found. Absolutely! Why else would people from across the world at all hours be peeking in, commenting, proposing scenarios, etc.?

But...

Let's look at the other side, please, because not everyone will process the vague information we have about the person detained last night in the same way:

1) A journalist (dedicated, reliable, exhausted) made the decision to interview a household member live on air.
2) Said household member, in her anxiety and confusion about what was happening quite suddenly to her and her family, revealed snippets of information.
3) A warrant was present, but the search was conducted with her authorization because, as she stated, she had nothing to hide.
4) The first name and mumbled last name offered, in her ignorance (because she didn't realize the can of worms she was opening, of this I am 100% sure), were pounced on and people started digging. Maps, newspaper articles, a potential criminal history.
5) The information she offered under the strain and stress of the situation that was "inconsistent" was used to further justify pointing a finger a digging deeper.

This morning, the POI has been released, but the consequences for this family are far from over. Is the person they detained involved? Honestly, at this point, we don't know. He might have been released pending further investigation and he might be under surveillance even as I type this. We simply DO NOT KNOW.

However, somewhere out there, people who very willingly believe the worst and need to prop up certain personal beliefs will use "Hispanic male", "suspected sex offender", "driving a white van", and conclude "is he even legally in this country?"

We don't know the immigration status of this family, but I am sure we will get chapter and verse, plus added curlicues and frills in short order.

Regardless of your feelings about immigration in this country (and I do not judge people's opinions on this matter because each person has their reasons for holding fast to a particular set of values, peace to you,) an interview given in a moment of stress by a journalist who should have exercised a moment of discretion and still conveyed the gist of the conversation to his viewers undoubtedly will fuel ill-feeling towards people who might/might not be in the know about NG's whereabouts, or what happened at her home.

Full disclosure: I am Hispanic, and my vernacular is Spanish. I was born a US citizen (8 USC §1402 and the Jones-Shafroth Act of 1917) and I am fully bilingual; if you saw me on the street, you would probably think "Mediterranean ancestry? Jewish?" and you'd be correct on both counts. If you spoke to me, you would think I grew up somewhere in the Midwest because that's where the nuns from our school came from. Our last name is so "generic" that we've had people checking our credit in situ tell us that our names come up in an FBI list for wanted drug dealers.

My personal experience is neither here nor there other than it triggers empathy for NG and her family, but it also triggers the understanding that revealing the POI's name and interviewing his mother-in-law on air, and allowing her stress-induced indiscretion in revealing what she did will have serious consequences for this family.

In school (many, many years ago), we studied US History and Civics and Government. My presence (legal...I feel compelled to repeat this because words can be misconstrued very easily in an age when everyone skims and reading comprehension has lost the weight it once carried) in this country as a full-time resident (to the extent of not having gone home for funerals or vacations or flying visits) has now lasted 26 years and I expect to never see my island again...ever. In that time, the pursuit of truth and facts that are carefully and assiduously researched has given way to the instant gratification of "hits on Google".

I want, desperately, for NG to be found; I want her to be safe. I want her to be well. I wish her a peaceful rest of her life surrounded by her family, and some degree (because a totality, after this harrowing period, is never possible) of peace and ease of mind.

At the same time, I feel that we don't have a right to, in our zeal, tear into a family we don't feel as intimately connected to as we do the Guthries. There will be those who, regardless of this POI's release, will descend on his family with merciless anger. As of this moment, only CNN has reported the POI's release. ONE NEWS OUTLET that is widely viewed has reported this. ONE. I don't follow social media, but I am fairly certain that the backlash and the rhetoric about immigration is probably taking off like a Roman candle.

I don't want to be participant in that. That's not why I came here. I came here because one family had suffered a tremendously traumatic event, and I wanted to see NG found. In my stupid, old, possibly naive mind, the frenzy of identifying the POI and starting to gather random threads to weave some cloth based on mumbled information feels tremendously unfair.

Forgive me if you think these are the ravings of a post-menopausal woman who doesn't "get it". I thought we were here to be helpful to each other, to the victims and families. I went to bed last night thinking we might just have been participant in victimizing another family. Hyperbole, perhaps, but to me it's heartbreaking to see this happen.

I say all this with deep respect for everyone's opinion, and for the tremendous intelligence and dedication I have witnessed here. I will watch and listen, but I will not comment further. I want to see this through, but I feel I've said enough and cannot offer anything productive past this point.

Thank you for patience and your tolerance of my wordiness. Peace to all.
How beautifully said, thank you 🙏🏻
 
  • #21,185
I feel sorry for this guy, it shouldn't be like this. I didn't like the FBI and media circus last night.
100% agree. I can't say it was the best day for media unfortunately. I can't speak for LE because I don't know what led them to detain this man
 
  • #21,186
Likely that at early stage of missing elderly “Silver Alert” (call to 911) triggers automatic contact with APS, who then visits and leaves card so they may be contacted when she is found (the process is to get involved early to help a person who has become more vulnerable & walked off - not kidnapping!). Good to know APS gets contacted when a Silver goes missing.
Agree. The card was visible in BEs video on 2/3 (where he shows the blood spatter). So it was early—likely before ransom received.
 
  • #21,187
I just woke up and catching up, but they have closed the El Paso airport here for 10 days. 10 days? Have y’all ever heard of this—an airport being just closed? At first I thought it was maybe related to NG — but guess not. Just weird. Sorry for the unrelated post - but it’s weird nonetheless. Said for security reasons.
 
  • #21,188
So did they quickly realize they were questioning someone completely unrelated to the case?
 
  • #21,189
I think this person absolutely looks like the man in the mask. I also think it's odd he is giving an interview so soon and he honestly seemed to enjoy the attention. It also doesn't mean anything that they questioned and released him already maybe they don't have enough. Maybe I'm wrong. JMO.
I watched the interview several times. He has big hands and bends his wrist just like the Nest video. Moo…
 
  • #21,190
If he was in any way a suspect they would not have released him so soon. Someone prob had a grudge and tipped the FBI as said by the mother-in-law so they searched the house. Poor guy. Yesterday some people blamed the pizza guy and the uber lady.
They are all not the one on the vid - JMO
Tips need to be further investigated not jumped on, as this was obviously done. FBI agents are paid well for this?
 
  • #21,191
I watched the interview several times. He has big hands and bends his wrist just like the Nest video. Moo…
And, he obviously has other attributes that show he was not involved. We now indict someone on big hands and wrist bends?
 
  • #21,192

'Where things stand​

Detained person released: Authorities have released a person detained for questioning in Rio Rico, about 60 miles south of Tucson, CNN affiliate KNXV reported. The man, identified only as Carlos, told The New York Times, “I hope they get the suspect, because I’m not it.”

Surveillance video: The FBI yesterday released doorbell camera footage from outside Nancy Guthrie’s front door taken the morning she disappeared on February 1, showing a masked, armed person. Separately, FBI Director Kash Patel said the agency is looking at “persons of interest” in the case, in which authorities say the 84-year-old was taken against her will from her Arizona home.

Pleas for help: “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie posted another message from her family following the video release, saying they believe their mother is still alive.'
 
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  • #21,193
It’s almost like the family is unwilling to believe TC was involved. They are pointing the finger anywhere else including now at innocent people. Still looks like the band member to me.

The family have not pointed the finger at anyone.
It was reported that LE responded to a tip-off.
 
  • #21,194
Yes, I’m thoroughly confused at the response here. Police went out of their way multiple times to say this dude wasn’t even a person of interest, he was just being detained for questioning.

JMO
Well, had he just received a knock and talk I might agree. But they searched and, according to him, damage his home and detained several members of his family. Not to mention whatever damage they might have done to his vehicle.
 
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Good morning.

I would like to start the day by expressing an opinion about what we all saw last night in contrast to what is being reported this morning.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-savannah-missing-mom-02-11-26

There was, indeed, a vigorous flutter of hopeful excitement when news broke about a POI being detained during a traffic stop, and the movement of LE in a specific direction. There was even a rising thrum of expectation that air traffic indicated movement to a hospital and, Lord willing, it was NG being taken for treatment.

The moment a location was given, the moment a woman was interviewed on camera and, in the deep emotion of the moment, revealed a name, muttered a last name, a deep dive into the who and where and what started. There was even speculation about whether a person with a similar-sounding last name, and who happened to be a sex offender, was THE person!!!!!

Warrant. They had a warrant! They don't need a warrant. And so on and so forth. The woman allowed them into the house, AND they had a warrant! Phones were taken. Her information was inconsistent...where does the son-in-law work? Where what how...was he driving a van for work???? Would you drive an UBER for an HOUR, and so on and so forth.

Of course we all want NG found. Absolutely! Why else would people from across the world at all hours be peeking in, commenting, proposing scenarios, etc.?

But...

Let's look at the other side, please, because not everyone will process the vague information we have about the person detained last night in the same way:

1) A journalist (dedicated, reliable, exhausted) made the decision to interview a household member live on air.
2) Said household member, in her anxiety and confusion about what was happening quite suddenly to her and her family, revealed snippets of information.
3) A warrant was present, but the search was conducted with her authorization because, as she stated, she had nothing to hide.
4) The first name and mumbled last name offered, in her ignorance (because she didn't realize the can of worms she was opening, of this I am 100% sure), were pounced on and people started digging. Maps, newspaper articles, a potential criminal history.
5) The information she offered under the strain and stress of the situation that was "inconsistent" was used to further justify pointing a finger a digging deeper.

This morning, the POI has been released, but the consequences for this family are far from over. Is the person they detained involved? Honestly, at this point, we don't know. He might have been released pending further investigation and he might be under surveillance even as I type this. We simply DO NOT KNOW.

However, somewhere out there, people who very willingly believe the worst and need to prop up certain personal beliefs will use "Hispanic male", "suspected sex offender", "driving a white van", and conclude "is he even legally in this country?"

We don't know the immigration status of this family, but I am sure we will get chapter and verse, plus added curlicues and frills in short order.

Regardless of your feelings about immigration in this country (and I do not judge people's opinions on this matter because each person has their reasons for holding fast to a particular set of values, peace to you,) an interview given in a moment of stress by a journalist who should have exercised a moment of discretion and still conveyed the gist of the conversation to his viewers undoubtedly will fuel ill-feeling towards people who might/might not be in the know about NG's whereabouts, or what happened at her home.

Full disclosure: I am Hispanic, and my vernacular is Spanish. I was born a US citizen (8 USC §1402 and the Jones-Shafroth Act of 1917) and I am fully bilingual; if you saw me on the street, you would probably think "Mediterranean ancestry? Jewish?" and you'd be correct on both counts. If you spoke to me, you would think I grew up somewhere in the Midwest because that's where the nuns from our school came from. Our last name is so "generic" that we've had people checking our credit in situ tell us that our names come up in an FBI list for wanted drug dealers.

My personal experience is neither here nor there other than it triggers empathy for NG and her family, but it also triggers the understanding that revealing the POI's name and interviewing his mother-in-law on air, and allowing her stress-induced indiscretion in revealing what she did will have serious consequences for this family.

In school (many, many years ago), we studied US History and Civics and Government. My presence (legal...I feel compelled to repeat this because words can be misconstrued very easily in an age when everyone skims and reading comprehension has lost the weight it once carried) in this country as a full-time resident (to the extent of not having gone home for funerals or vacations or flying visits) has now lasted 26 years and I expect to never see my island again...ever. In that time, the pursuit of truth and facts that are carefully and assiduously researched has given way to the instant gratification of "hits on Google".

I want, desperately, for NG to be found; I want her to be safe. I want her to be well. I wish her a peaceful rest of her life surrounded by her family, and some degree (because a totality, after this harrowing period, is never possible) of peace and ease of mind.

At the same time, I feel that we don't have a right to, in our zeal, tear into a family we don't feel as intimately connected to as we do the Guthries. There will be those who, regardless of this POI's release, will descend on his family with merciless anger. As of this moment, only CNN has reported the POI's release. ONE NEWS OUTLET that is widely viewed has reported this. ONE. I don't follow social media, but I am fairly certain that the backlash and the rhetoric about immigration is probably taking off like a Roman candle.

I don't want to be participant in that. That's not why I came here. I came here because one family had suffered a tremendously traumatic event, and I wanted to see NG found. In my stupid, old, possibly naive mind, the frenzy of identifying the POI and starting to gather random threads to weave some cloth based on mumbled information feels tremendously unfair.

Forgive me if you think these are the ravings of a post-menopausal woman who doesn't "get it". I thought we were here to be helpful to each other, to the victims and families. I went to bed last night thinking we might just have been participant in victimizing another family. Hyperbole, perhaps, but to me it's heartbreaking to see this happen.

I say all this with deep respect for everyone's opinion, and for the tremendous intelligence and dedication I have witnessed here. I will watch and listen, but I will not comment further. I want to see this through, but I feel I've said enough and cannot offer anything productive past this point.

Thank you for patience and your tolerance of my wordiness. Peace to all.
I’m not 100% if you’re the person I was interacting with last night, it was far too late for my brain to handle right now… my only qualm was with the allegation that they did not have a warrant. I think the media frenzy is far too crazy and the public sleuthing of these folks is going too far. Several people here were posting crap from addresses that weren’t even correct in the first place. This does no one any good.

Police have to follow up on promising leads. There isn’t really another way. At the same time, journalists also have an ethical responsibility and what was displayed last night by both mainstream and independent journalists is gross.

JMO
 
  • #21,196
Derek C texted AG and TC “did you get the btc yet?”

The inference was that he is a scammer. But if that’s all he texted, are we sure he didn’t know them? He also called them. Why only text those two?
And how did he get cell phone numbers for both so early on…..
 
  • #21,197
It’s almost like the family is unwilling to believe TC was involved. They are pointing the finger anywhere else including now at innocent people. Still looks like the band member to me.
Wait. I'm just waking up to the news that the person detained doesn't appear to be involved, so I haven't caught up yet. Are you saying NG's family pointed their finger in the man who was detained then released? Link, please.
 
  • #21,198
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It’s almost like the family is unwilling to believe TC was involved. They are pointing the finger anywhere else including now at innocent people. Still looks like the band member to me.
The irony.
 
  • #21,199
Stayed up way too late with what I thought was a cringe interview with the MIL and woke up to this release story. I am concerned someone swatted the guy, tbh.
 
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It’s almost like the family is unwilling to believe TC was involved. They are pointing the finger anywhere else including now at innocent people. Still looks like the band member to me.
This was probably a tip from a "concerned citizen" that led them to this man. NG's family has no control over how LE is vetting their tips.
 

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