AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[The OG]

Please someone correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t it take a few days to get a warrant for cell phone records/triangulation?

No, especially in an urgent case such as this.

 

[Trino]

Ok I just saw on fox news per the person detained, A tipster called in and thought his eyes looked like the person on camera.

Well that clears that up, a big fat nothingburger

So now we go with eyes? Incredible. Some people would do anything for a $50,000 reward.

 

[m00c0w]

Not exactly a line of inquiry when he was not afforded his rights for 2 hours after being detained.

Specifically what rights was he not afforded?

 

[Laura Avery]

The first person to report the story

Oh, sorry "They want to get THERE first" ok, got it. It changes so much, plus with time difference some of us are waking up to different news.

 

[Inthedetails]

i understand BE has been reliable in the past, and i'll repeat myself again, i don't think he's acting in bad faith or is a bad person or anything like that.

however, it serves no one to have a reporter on no sleep broadcasting live outside an active investigation. he should go home and get some rest, so he can perform to the best of his abilities. he doesn't need to live stream every second of this case, it makes it seem like he's more interested in being the first to break juicy new updates, rather than actually reporting accurate information.

JMO but it definitely changed the view i had of him from the beginning of the case, and i'll feel less confident about info from him going forward.

Exactly. I say this as a true-crime and breaking-news aficionado....we don't need LIVE COVERAGE of police investigations. Media followed LE from house-to-house yesterday. It's too much.

We can get information from written articles and prepared video. Those are fast enough and provide a moment of breathing space for everyone.

An investigation can be transparent without being broadcast live.

jmopinion

 

[The OG]

Ok I just saw on fox news per the person detained, A tipster called in and thought his eyes looked like the person on camera.

Well that clears that up, a big fat nothingburger

That coupled with the fact that he has an unmarked white van and some association with his phone (per CP). It was a good lead that LE was right to follow up. The manner in which they did it was probably a bit of overkill, IMO.

 

[crussell821]

Ok I just saw on fox news per the person detained, A tipster called in and thought his eyes looked like the person on camera.

Well that clears that up, a big fat nothingburger

They descended on him like that over a tip about similar EYES??

 

[subaw0067]

I want to have faith in the talented women and men of the FBI but lord it seems like Kash is bungling this.

 

[Monepone]

Ok I just saw on fox news per the person detained, A tipster called in and thought his eyes looked like the person on camera.

Well that clears that up, a big fat nothingburger

That's really worrisome if true. He was basically swatted.

 

[Strangeworld]

They descended on him like that over a tip about similar EYES??

We might see an increase in people wearing sunglasses for the next few days

 

[thefragile7393]

Ok I just saw on fox news per the person detained, A tipster called in and thought his eyes looked like the person on camera.

Well that clears that up, a big fat nothingburger

Ok the “big fat nothing burger” had me dying though

 

[subaw0067]

They descended on him like that over a tip about similar EYES?

They use a masked paramilitary force to descend on every other Hispanic person in this country so I can’t say I’m incredibly surprised

 

[connie9030]

Good morning.

I would like to start the day by expressing an opinion about what we all saw last night in contrast to what is being reported this morning.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nancy-guthrie-savannah-missing-mom-02-11-26

There was, indeed, a vigorous flutter of hopeful excitement when news broke about a POI being detained during a traffic stop, and the movement of LE in a specific direction. There was even a rising thrum of expectation that air traffic indicated movement to a hospital and, Lord willing, it was NG being taken for treatment.

The moment a location was given, the moment a woman was interviewed on camera and, in the deep emotion of the moment, revealed a name, muttered a last name, a deep dive into the who and where and what started. There was even speculation about whether a person with a similar-sounding last name, and who happened to be a sex offender, was THE person!!!!!

Warrant. They had a warrant! They don't need a warrant. And so on and so forth. The woman allowed them into the house, AND they had a warrant! Phones were taken. Her information was inconsistent...where does the son-in-law work? Where what how...was he driving a van for work???? Would you drive an UBER for an HOUR, and so on and so forth.

Of course we all want NG found. Absolutely! Why else would people from across the world at all hours be peeking in, commenting, proposing scenarios, etc.?

But...

Let's look at the other side, please, because not everyone will process the vague information we have about the person detained last night in the same way:

1) A journalist (dedicated, reliable, exhausted) made the decision to interview a household member live on air.
2) Said household member, in her anxiety and confusion about what was happening quite suddenly to her and her family, revealed snippets of information.
3) A warrant was present, but the search was conducted with her authorization because, as she stated, she had nothing to hide.
4) The first name and mumbled last name offered, in her ignorance (because she didn't realize the can of worms she was opening, of this I am 100% sure), were pounced on and people started digging. Maps, newspaper articles, a potential criminal history.
5) The information she offered under the strain and stress of the situation that was "inconsistent" was used to further justify pointing a finger a digging deeper.

This morning, the POI has been released, but the consequences for this family are far from over. Is the person they detained involved? Honestly, at this point, we don't know. He might have been released pending further investigation and he might be under surveillance even as I type this. We simply DO NOT KNOW.

However, somewhere out there, people who very willingly believe the worst and need to prop up certain personal beliefs will use "Hispanic male", "suspected sex offender", "driving a white van", and conclude "is he even legally in this country?"

We don't know the immigration status of this family, but I am sure we will get chapter and verse, plus added curlicues and frills in short order.

Regardless of your feelings about immigration in this country (and I do not judge people's opinions on this matter because each person has their reasons for holding fast to a particular set of values, peace to you,) an interview given in a moment of stress by a journalist who should have exercised a moment of discretion and still conveyed the gist of the conversation to his viewers undoubtedly will fuel ill-feeling towards people who might/might not be in the know about NG's whereabouts, or what happened at her home.

Full disclosure: I am Hispanic, and my vernacular is Spanish. I was born a US citizen (8 USC §1402 and the Jones-Shafroth Act of 1917) and I am fully bilingual; if you saw me on the street, you would probably think "Mediterranean ancestry? Jewish?" and you'd be correct on both counts. If you spoke to me, you would think I grew up somewhere in the Midwest because that's where the nuns from our school came from. Our last name is so "generic" that we've had people checking our credit in situ tell us that our names come up in an FBI list for wanted drug dealers.

My personal experience is neither here nor there other than it triggers empathy for NG and her family, but it also triggers the understanding that revealing the POI's name and interviewing his mother-in-law on air, and allowing her stress-induced indiscretion in revealing what she did will have serious consequences for this family.

In school (many, many years ago), we studied US History and Civics and Government. My presence (legal...I feel compelled to repeat this because words can be misconstrued very easily in an age when everyone skims and reading comprehension has lost the weight it once carried) in this country as a full-time resident (to the extent of not having gone home for funerals or vacations or flying visits) has now lasted 26 years and I expect to never see my island again...ever. In that time, the pursuit of truth and facts that are carefully and assiduously researched has given way to the instant gratification of "hits on Google".

I want, desperately, for NG to be found; I want her to be safe. I want her to be well. I wish her a peaceful rest of her life surrounded by her family, and some degree (because a totality, after this harrowing period, is never possible) of peace and ease of mind.

At the same time, I feel that we don't have a right to, in our zeal, tear into a family we don't feel as intimately connected to as we do the Guthries. There will be those who, regardless of this POI's release, will descend on his family with merciless anger. As of this moment, only CNN has reported the POI's release. ONE NEWS OUTLET that is widely viewed has reported this. ONE. I don't follow social media, but I am fairly certain that the backlash and the rhetoric about immigration is probably taking off like a Roman candle.

I don't want to be participant in that. That's not why I came here. I came here because one family had suffered a tremendously traumatic event, and I wanted to see NG found. In my stupid, old, possibly naive mind, the frenzy of identifying the POI and starting to gather random threads to weave some cloth based on mumbled information feels tremendously unfair.

Forgive me if you think these are the ravings of a post-menopausal woman who doesn't "get it". I thought we were here to be helpful to each other, to the victims and families. I went to bed last night thinking we might just have been participant in victimizing another family. Hyperbole, perhaps, but to me it's heartbreaking to see this happen.

I say all this with deep respect for everyone's opinion, and for the tremendous intelligence and dedication I have witnessed here. I will watch and listen, but I will not comment further. I want to see this through, but I feel I've said enough and cannot offer anything productive past this point.

Thank you for patience and your tolerance of my wordiness. Peace to all.

You are SO right! I absolutely hate it when a news story focuses on skin color or nationality. Many media outlets have replaced objective reporting with "moral clarity" journalism. When media outlets focus heavily on race or nationality to drive engagement it can have negative impacts on a criminal investigation. Keep in mind, being released does not necessarily mean "cleared."

 

[Inthedetails]

That coupled with the fact that he has an unmarked white van and some association with his phone (per CP). It was a good lead that LE was right to follow up. Themanner in which they did it was probably a bit of overkill, IMO.

LE follow leads and not all are correct -that's part of the hard work they do. But the public doesn't to be there for every second of it.

I'm questioning my own habits of following cases, tbh. Yesterday was cringe, yet I watched. WHY?

Not comfortable today.

 

[ab01]

They descended on him like that over a tip about similar EYES??

I’m sure there’s a bit more to it than that. Like investigators then discovered he delivered packages in tucson.

But according to the detainee yes that was the initial tip.

 

[Bobban]

Maybe it was a bit of a reach but if they pinged his phone or car and saw his movement towards the southern border it might have triggered them to take action.

 

[m00c0w]

Such a wild pendulum swing here from “the dude police say isn’t a suspect is totally the guy that did it!” to “They only went off of his eyes???”

We have no idea what police have or don’t have, and breathless speculation is not fact.

JMO

 

[BrownRice]

They descended on him like that over a tip about similar EYES??

But that’s the purpose of releasing the video. If it looks like someone you know, call it in and LE vets the tip.

 

[Trino]

So, the "why" is still unanswered. If the object was to murder an 84 yr old, it would seem it would have happened in her home. Robbery? Nothing taken. Doubtful it has anything to do with SG or the Olympics.

Why take her? Ransom would be the foremost answer. Seems ransom is closer to being legit reason, but it's not been paid. Now what?

 

[mrjitty]

Exactly. I say this as a true-crime and breaking-news aficionado....we don't need LIVE COVERAGE of police investigations. Media followed LE from house-to-house yesterday. It's too much.

We can get information from written articles and prepared video. Those are fast enough and provide a moment of breathing space for everyone.

An investigation can be transparent without being broadcast live.

jmopinion

100%

To which I would add, why do true crime creators think it's appropriate or responsible to publish wild speculation about who might have done abduction/murder based on vibes?

I've seen one person smeared based on eyebrows and past criminal history.

I hope one of these 'influencers' gets taken to the cleaners one day

My opinion only