AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I was a Risk Manager in a hospital: I left there and went to work for a Personal injury attorney who handled medical malpractice. I reviewed hundreds of medical records and I have to tell you, when it comes to nursing homes, one consistent thing I found with respect to patients receiving medication. Almost all residents received drugs to lower cholesterol (statins): We all know that statins can have very severe side effects. So there they are, patients lying in bed, some don't even know where they are, but ,most all of them are receiving these drugs and I thought, what a freaking rip!!! it just makes me so angry!!!! and think about it, that is just one drug they are getting-- Most residents are getting multiple drugs--- it is really shameful.
Amen. I saw it too. And it shortens lifespan. Those chemicals are going into your body.
 
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No! The MEDIA made such a show of this dentention. Imo. The police didn’t interview the mil in the street and report the guy’s name. the police should not have media following their every step and interfering.
They are doing their job investigating whatever leads they have. This is frustrating but it’s the media that are increasing the fury here imo.
MOO - but I'm old enough to remember when media was newspaper and media journalists who were held to journalistic standards for reporting facts.

Now, we have anyone with a phone or a tripod camera calling themselves journalists and running around behind police doing door to door canvasing and putting snapshots of themselves with concerned looks interwoven with true, real life people of the case for Youtube and Tiktok videos oftentimes running with outdated or incorrect information.

All this to say, yes, I think the 'media' is the problem at this point.
 
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No! The MEDIA made such a show of this dentention. Imo. The police didn’t interview the mil in the street and report the guy’s name. the police should not have media following their every step and interfering.
They are doing their job investigating whatever leads they have. This is frustrating but it’s the media that are increasing the fury here imo.
Few people dislike the current media more than I, and I worked for a local newspaper for decades. The media in many cases (and in my personal opinion) have become contemptible.

However, last night, we - including myself - were rapt and switching from one platform to another hoping to glean even another tidbit no matter how small.

All the clickbait for a few fractions of a cent and fervor to have a "scoop" leads "journalists" to go to incredible lengths to cover a story - especially one like this with an international audience. I can't imagine how exhausted some of the media are having been outside all day, standing around, hoping for a glimpse of just anything to share.

I see it as cause and effect. I'm so thankful I went on to bed. Didn't want to. I wanted to keep scrolling endlessly. From reading these posts, others did too. We are part of what drives the media to the lengths they go to. It's compelling. It's interesting. But often it ain't pretty.
 
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Im no longer a nurse, and there are many in the medical community who would disagree and tell you listen to your doctor, he's educated etc. But there is no Doctor alive who can possibly know how 11 medications will all interact with each other, add in that every person has a little different chemistry, and there's just no way to know that without trial and error. And frankly, very few Doctors take this time to consider all of those interactions for one individual. I'm not saying your Doctor is wrong, but I AM saying if it concerns you, keep researching and pursuing this. JMOO. And I wish you much luck with that.
His poor kidneys! JMO
 
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This case is very….strange. IMO. Everytime I see a “breaking development” that ends up not being the case; I feel like it’s giving “hoax” vibes. I don’t think it’s a hoax but that’s what it’s giving me at the moment. AMO
I don't feel like it's a hoax in the sense that poor NG is missing and her family is suffering. But I do have some suspicion that this case is not what it appears to be and I'm not talking about a run of the mill cover up by a close individual that we see in a lot of cases. There is something more at play here IMO.
 
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Also your neighborhood pharmacist can talk to you.
They used to be great at that but ours is so busy. They say “Talk to your doctor”.
 
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It's not just that they are pretty, there is a definite feminine look about them. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see past it. lol

A lot of people thought this about Luigi Mangione's eyes when he was seen in a mask. It's funny because I don't think Luigi's eyes really look "feminine" when you see his whole face.... "pretty" but not feminine. But when you remove the context of the rest of his face and view his eyes in isolation, they absolutely do. I think what we're dealing with here is that same lack of context.
 
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I don't feel like it's a hoax in the sense that poor NG is missing and her family is suffering. But I do have some suspicion that this case is not what it appears to be and I'm not talking about a run of the mill cover up by a close individual that we see in a lot of cases. There is something more at play here IMO.
Many people are saying this. It seemed cut and dried. All for money. But someone put this person up to this. I now believe he was paid or had help.
 
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Did anyone see the latest episode of AB? She had a guy on who doesn’t believe the door cam footage is real. Not real in that it looks like a person set it up to make it look like something it wasn’t. Staged. He too believes that the person is wearing a Halloween mask underneath to balaclava to totally throw people off. I saw some people here theorizing the realistic mask thing too. He also thinks the gun holster looks ridiculous. The way it’s worn. Basically the footage was to create a diversion. I’m not sure if he’s hinting that maybe she didn’t return home at all. If that’s the case, the least the perp could have done was to take some stuff to make it look like a robbery.
 
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Im no longer a nurse, and there are many in the medical community who would disagree and tell you listen to your doctor, he's educated etc. But there is no Doctor alive who can possibly know how 11 medications will all interact with each other, add in that every person has a little different chemistry, and there's just no way to know that without trial and error. And frankly, very few Doctors take this time to consider all of those interactions for one individual. I'm not saying your Doctor is wrong, but I AM saying if it concerns you, keep researching and pursuing this. JMOO. And I wish you much luck with that.
If you get all your Rxs from the same pharmacy, you can be fairly sure there are no major interactions between them because the pharmacy checks for that. I believe it is something that is done automatically (via computer) so even the pharmacist doesn't have to know all the interactions. Walgreens once declined filling an RX for me for that reason. But things do slip through the cracks so it's not 100%.
 
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WATCH: Man detained by police in Nancy Guthrie search speaks to ABC15

So C thinks he may have been detained due to phone proximity. Potentially delivering packages in NG’s neighborhood. I wonder how they came to the conclusion that he was there around the time of the abduction.

C is obviously not the person in the video footage, they don’t have the same build. And I hope LE isn’t just going based off of phone pings because I’m sure the actual perp was savvy enough to turn theirs off or leave it at home for the crime.
I would not say C is "obviously" not the person in the video. I saw a different video where his face was visible. I thought there was a pretty good resemblance with the eyes and the little bits of facial hair. To me, the build was pretty similar. Also, the video from the camera has been enhanced by AI. It's real but enhanced. It will be interesting to see if the AI enhancement will be challenged in court if they do catch the guy.
 
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I wonder why police were searching all over AG's neighborhood yesterday. Do they think something happened to NG there or she was followed home? I don't understand why they were just doing this yesterday and not a week ago.
 
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I wonder if the man in the videos initial idea with the flowers was to stick them behind the camera and have the leaves block the lense. Doubt he wanted to take the cameras with him and make them a later problem he had to dispose of.
I can see amazon and Google prehaps putting locators in their doorbell cameras from now on if not maybe its an idea for any budding entrepreneurs among us 😀
 
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I agree, and I think they should scrub the detained person's and his family's names from their social media and website.

I didn't know alot about BE before Nancy's disappearance, and I've been so impressed with his stamina and coverage. But this has tarnished him IMO. I think he crossed the line and he took it way too far, almost like a tabloid reporter. I don't know if he's so fatigued he didn't think through what he was doing, but I'm less inclined to follow him now. He should have stayed out of this one
Brian did ask the MIL her SIL's name and she blurted out her SIL's full name. She kind of said the last name quickly and (from the clips I saw), Brian did not actually ask how do you spell that. I think if she had just said the first name, he may not have asked for a last name. In the interview with the guy himself, Brian said he just wants to go by his first name. MIL was flustered and rambling. I thought he was actually pretty respectful toward her. I think he's pretty earnest and does a nice job of coverage.

I felt bad for the family. The adrenaline and shock and fear. I think they spoke freely because they had nothing to hide. They looked like people feeling like is this for real?? Seriously?? Rather than smooth or coy. What a mess.

And I get why someone called in a tip. The guy's basic eye spacing, lips, mustache fall into the ok, hmmm. Then add in what I think was a white vehicle and he does deliveries in Tucson, and yeah, someone likely called in exactly the kind of tip LE wants to hear. It was just a mess from there. Also, the guy clearly having no idea, immediately offers up something like, "I don't know her but I may have delivered something to her." Which on its face sounds like wait what, whoa. But sounds more like him trying to figure out how who the hell this lady was and why they were asking him.

I think this person absolutely looks like the man in the mask. I also think it's odd he is giving an interview so soon and he honestly seemed to enjoy the attention. It also doesn't mean anything that they questioned and released him already maybe they don't have enough. Maybe I'm wrong. JMO.
I think he was in stunned shock, adrenaline, and that it was all surreal. One minute you're doing a door dash delivery, the next you have the FBI pulling you over for one of the biggest kidnapping cases in decades and reporters putting microphones in your faces.

I hope they pay for the freaking door to be fixed. But if he was the bad guy, we would have all been glad they barged on in. Tough night.
 
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Did anyone see the latest episode of AB? She had a guy on who doesn’t believe the door cam footage is real. Not real in that it looks like a person set it up to make it look like something it wasn’t. Staged. He too believes that the person is wearing a Halloween mask underneath to balaclava to totally throw people off. I saw some people here theorizing the realistic mask thing too. He also thinks the gun holster looks ridiculous. The way it’s worn. Basically the footage was to create a diversion. I’m not sure if he’s hinting that maybe she didn’t return home at all. If that’s the case, the least the perp could have done was to take some stuff to make it look like a robbery.
How cruel that would be!!! Somebody had to set that up. It appears too many are involved. Why? Wondering if someone had a grievance with Savannah or Camron or Annie.
 
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Did anyone see the latest episode of AB? She had a guy on who doesn’t believe the door cam footage is real. Not real in that it looks like a person set it up to make it look like something it wasn’t. Staged. He too believes that the person is wearing a Halloween mask underneath to balaclava to totally throw people off. I saw some people here theorizing the realistic mask thing too. He also thinks the gun holster looks ridiculous. The way it’s worn. Basically the footage was to create a diversion. I’m not sure if he’s hinting that maybe she didn’t return home at all. If that’s the case, the least the perp could have done was to take some stuff to make it look like a robbery.
AB herself should be in the news but she isn’t. She sure took some eyes off herself. IYKYK. MOO
 
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...I'm hoping and praying that they have already researched the company/companies/installers/workmen that have made improvements to the home within the past year.
 
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Facial recognition software can make certain determinations using measurements of facial features then compare to a database of measurements then make a probability of the nationality even through a mask. Software can be trained to analyze facial features to estimate age, gender, and ethnic background. These are not absolute identifications but rather statistical probabilities based on datasets.
Neither software nor people can determine if that masked person is Italian, German, Russian, Israeli or Mexican. It could any of the above IMO. The argument could be made that its more likely to be a Hispanic because of the geographic location, but beyond that, there are very little features visible to make that determination.
 
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