AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Eli9]

I had a subscription to nest for 60 day cloud storage for over 3 years. Cancelled my subscription to nest for over 6 months. A neighbor had their house broken into. So I renewed my subscription. As soon as I re-subscribed 60 days of past feed showed back up automatically. My next door neighbor at the time was a police officer. They used the feed to apprehend the suspect. Caught his truck on my camera. I didn’t know at the time the past 60 days would be restored like that. And that was about 4 years ago. Not saying they still do this. My camera played out about 2 years ago and opted to install a better security camera system. I thought I read above it was a Ring camera and not Nest. Either way I’m sure if google has the ability to do that with nest. Amazon with Ring should have the same capability (IMO). What I’m not sure of is. I originally had the 60 day subscription. And that’s why it loaded the past 60 days. If I had had like a 30 day or less if it would have gone back to that instead of the 60 days. If that makes any sense at all. On the other hand I was great full I could help my neighbor although that wasn’t the reason for re-subscribing. Didn’t know at the time that would happen. Just a surprising added bonus. But was honestly weirded out by the fact it was still recording to the cloud after subscription was cancelled.

So in theory if a member of the G family paid today for a subscription they could potentially retrieve the last 60 days? I think this is FBI tip line worthy. Seriously.

ETA
Or maybe they already did and that's how the recent footage showed up. Still, worth a call JMO

 

[shadowsc]

When you listen to SG's video asking anyone who notices anything, no matter how small, to please call it in, without us knowing any facts, it's hard to fault whoever called in a tip of someone who works in that area, who has, on the surface, a few seemingly eye or facial hair similarities with the masked suspect. The FBI followed a lead. Maybe his cell phone had pinged a tower (my uninformed speculation only). Did they get overzealous in detaining him? Oh probably. And it sucks that the most he'll probably get is a release and "that's unfortunate." But I don't think someone who called in a tip was wrong. It's LE's job to vet those.

Poor Doordash guy. We think everyone is tracking cases the way we are, but a lot of people are just busy working, family, making a living, and it's just not on their radar. I hope they pulled him over after he made his delivery. Otherwise some person out there is still waiting for their damn fries. Can you imagine getting your DoorDash alert and realize later it sais "Cxxxxs is on his way!" And have no idea the reason he never showed. Meanwhile the FBI has his phone looking for TMZ communications and all these incoming texts come in. They would get all excited but it's his phone blowing up with messages from the DoorDash customer asking where her chick fil a is.

But in all seriousness, I feel awful for Nancy, her family, anyone wrongly accused, their families. Frankly I think it's a Shonda Rimes Scandal tv episode at this point and literally nothing, and I mean nothing, would surprise me. It's sure dominating news coverage, but I don't even know if it was predictable that it would take off the way it has.

 

[PCHS]

Agreed.
Someone very familiar with Nancy's routines was involved in this.
I still do not think at this time it was someone employed by Nancy ?
Jmo.

Why would it be someone all that familiar with her routines, aside from a cursory level that an employee or someone familiar with the employee could glean? They showed up middle of the night when it would be typical to find an 84 year old who lives alone and asleep, and found her just that way.

 

[shonyakay]

LINK..NO way to know what you are referring to. "vehicle somewhere" "showed something" was it his and she affirmed it. When i say a reporter said it, Everyone demands a link..Sometimes i type what I hear in real time. There is no link at that moment. If saying a reporter said thus and so and that is accepted, then MODS, please advise.

No worries. Give me a sec to track the link down and I will post it. And btw I stated it was my opinion that they were referring to a vehicle.

 

[Lebowski]

It would even be easier to rob the Louvre. Kidnapping for ransom as purely a means to money is insane. You'd have better chances of getting away with robbing a bank because the national news isn't going to do wall to wall coverage of it... it would just be a blip in the news.

it's an old-timey crime that made more sense in the days when most people never had their picture taken and sloppy fingerprinting was considered cutting edge forensics.

 

[PCHS]

So in theory if a member of the G family paid today for a subscription they could potentially retrieve the last 60 days? I think this is FBI tip line worthy. Seriously.

If this subscription info is accurate, why didn't Google just tell LE/FBI this to begin with and hand over footage asap? This type of info should be readily attainable by LE and not require a tip, but who knows given what we have seen at this point I think it can't hurt to make the suggestion to them...

 

[Mayor Perk]

People don’t always get the reward money for one reason or another (the McDonald’s lady didn’t get it for Luigi). And I wonder if it’s taxable?

Reward money is always taxable. It's income.

 

[HoveringWombats]

So could it be the perp turned the camera face down and then on the way OUT the door he picked it up to take it with them and that is WHEN it got the 2:27 or so "detected image"...

You're definitely right that these battery-powered wifi cameras will detect stuff even when they are off of their mounts, as long as they're still in wifi range.

However, the problem I have with this theory is that LE have a very specific "disconnected" time for the doorbell camera, and have had that time for a week now (it was on the sheriff timeline in the Thursday press conference, at least). While we've been assuming that when they said "disconnected" they meant that it shut off, was destroyed, or was otherwise disconnected from the network (in which case it would not have been continuing to detect motion and sending alerts), they theoretically could have meant it was physically disconnected from the wall. But the only way I can see them knowing that is if they had pictures or video of it being disconnected from the wall, and they didn't get pictures until this week. Without pictures, they'd know it was removed (because it was obviously gone), but they would not know what time.

Because they didn't have pictures at the time they provided the timestamp of disconnection, IMO the only reasonable explanation is that that's the time the camera disconnected from the network, and it could not have continued detecting after that (ok, it could have reconnected but I feel like they would have mentioned that). So I think the most straightforward conclusion is that the detection was from a different camera. We already know from other statements and from pictures on the scene that there were other cameras; we just don't know what, if anything, the other cameras detected, and which triggered this supposed later notification.

JMO — there's obviously still a ton we don't actually know here, so we're all guessing.

 

[Trino]

Why would it be someone all that familiar with her routines, aside from a cursory level that an employee or someone familiar with the employee could glean? They showed up middle of the night when it would by typical to find an 84 year old who lives alone and asleep, and found her just that way.

But why? Why take an 84 yr old woman? Why?

 

[warp3dwing]

I had a subscription to nest for 60 day cloud storage for over 3 years. Cancelled my subscription to nest for over 6 months. A neighbor had their house broken into. So I renewed my subscription. As soon as I re-subscribed 60 days of past feed showed back up automatically. My next door neighbor at the time was a police officer. They used the feed to apprehend the suspect. Caught his truck on my camera. I didn’t know at the time the past 60 days would be restored like that. And that was about 4 years ago. Not saying they still do this. My camera played out about 2 years ago and opted to install a better security camera system. I thought I read above it was a Ring camera and not Nest. Either way I’m sure if google has the ability to do that with nest. Amazon with Ring should have the same capability (IMO). What I’m not sure of is. I originally had the 60 day subscription. And that’s why it loaded the past 60 days. If I had had like a 30 day or less if it would have gone back to that instead of the 60 days. If that makes any sense at all. On the other hand I was great full I could help my neighbor although that wasn’t the reason for re-subscribing. Didn’t know at the time that would happen. Just a surprising added bonus. But was honestly weirded out by the fact it was still recording to the cloud after subscription was cancelled.

That is very interesting. I wonder if having previously subscribed to the 60-day storage affects how much data is kept? Google may well have found that those customers who cancel a subscription are likely to resubscribe at a later date, and they maintain the historical buffer as a customer benefit.

I'd love to know if a similar historical data population happens for subscriptionless Nest doorbell owners who then opt for a 60-day subscription.

 

[su5ie]

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I've been impressed with all your comments here.

I hope that we all can be better, including the news people who are responding to all of us wanting all of the details. But, what happened last night with the many news people interviewing the MIL and getting a lot of information was wrong. I know so many of us were horrified when BE interviewed the MIL, asked for her SIL's name and she said the full name plus many, many other things that she likely said in shock and likely didn't know were better not said. Their family will likely never be the same. MO

No offence intended but I think there is only one family who will never , ever be the same

Yes the media are vultures but sometimes we are glad of the info they provide in a case .

Yes this man and his family were put in the spotlight unnecessarily but they will recover . Now if they are targeted because of it that is an entirely different scenario but I think the general consensus is empathy for him

If it were my family member that was in a situation like Nancy, I wouldn't want a tip to be allowed slide in fear of offending or highlighting a mistaken perp .

The media is only feeding the metaphorical piranhas which are a public waiting with bated breathe for any tiny detail

So blaming media is a ridiculous as its the consumer of said media that buys in by ravishing every word imo jmo

If the perp turned out to be guilty there would be no empathy for his MIL or his family period

 

[LRinCA]

Thanks and that would make sense. I was thinking vintage as well as in 90's style.

I found another photo. It's hard to find one with an active link because it's an older style:

Vintage Nautica Jacket (S/BIG)

Please check measurements before purchase. #534 A little shorter length fit - 68cm Recommended Size S/BIG (Wider chest / A little shorter length and sleeves) Tag Size S Measurements Shoulder 53cm / Chest 61cm / Body Length 68cm / Sleeves 57cm Model - Condition Vintage fades / A minor stain on...

www.vintageland.co.nz

 

[jtfolden]

I believe this is very relevant. ^^^

We still do not know if Nancy ever made it home that evening, and the daughter lives close enough that the pacemaker would keep syncing until Nancy herself was driven further out of range ?
What if Nancy was in a vehicle, alive or deceased, and was never moved from it, while the intruder was inside her house, rifling through her things ?
LE seem to have thought that it was a crime scene they were looking at, so even if nothing was taken were items looking as if a search had been carried out ?
So many unanswered questions.
Imo.

No, the pacemaker connects via Bluetooth to her phone/Watch. So, you’d have a max distance of about 33ft (maybe less when separated by walls) before it would disconnect. There is no way it could remain connected if they were miles apart.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

Do SG’s BIL and AG have alibis after BIL supposedly dropped her off at home? Do we have evidence that he actually dropped her off at home?

How do we know the house wasn’t staged with her things, but her body wasn’t actually at home (and never made it home after being at AG’s house)?

I hope LE thoroughly questioned AG’s neighbors and looked at surveillance videos near AGs home and along the routes the BIL could’ve taken IF he drove NG back home.

So many questions. Not enough answers yet.

I pray they find her soon.

Assuming LE has access to her phone and Apple Watch, they likely have much more information about her location throughout the early evening up until the point of her arriving home. It's always possible that it was fabricated with planning and foresight, but I think LE would be more focused on family if they thought that was the case rather than questioning and searching homes of other POI. All MOO.

 

[Trino]

Reward money is always taxable. It's income.

Really? Had no idea.

 

[PCHS]

Reward money is always taxable. It's income.

I'm just not buying it - to avoid taxes they commit extortion for 66K?? I think they are either not very astute and/or it is a scam. If it is legit then they are really not that bright..but anything is possible at this point I guess jmo

 

[WillenFan21]

WOW I wonder why they thought that guy had something to do with it?

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Yes, I thought the jacket looked very retro 80s tracksuit, with iridescent strips along sides of zipper and shoulders( visible for night jogging).

Maybe Goodwill, so it couldn’t be researched, may not be available new today. FBI could look through eBay and some other resale sites, they sell old clothes. If found, search warrant, who they sold to.
JMO

What are your thoughts on the composition of the jacket. My initial thought was reversible fleece?

 

[justme11]

I would be willing to entertain the "Nancy never made it home" scenario except that her garage door went up and then down at the exact time the family said they took her home. I guess they could have driven over and entered the house at that time but why?

We don't know if she has a handheld transmitter to open/close the door, uses a passcode outside the door or an app. If she has an app it could send notifications to her phone that the door has opened/closed, which could cover someone's butt.

 

[GlobeFireCandle]

I’m thinking the footage was wiped and Google have gone through a recovery process for it which may have been very time consuming